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Old January 13th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #21
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And the thing is, there are still good deals out there on some things, if you spend the time to look.
I've purchased a fair amount of parts and ammo in the last two months and have yet to pay anything over normal "pre freak out" pricing. I get to travel the entire state and stop into a lot of places and for that I find stuff that's still around or that just showed up. I've found most gun shops haven't really raised prices much. Just out of stock on ar stuff and ammo is hit or miss. The worst thing some are doing, if you can call it that, is rationing ammo to five boxes at a time or something. I don't care that they do that either as they're looking out for their customers.
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Well, I bought RGR @44 just sold it @48.5.........10% in 2 weeks. Makes me sleep better.
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Old January 13th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #23
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Im looking at a 2k profit if i was to part with my ar. Its tempting for sure. Still waiting for my p mags that can be a huge profit as well
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I am all for the free market and making a profit but you need to be very careful that you don't shit your own bed when you do it. When the market gets a huge boost like this you can destroy your own reputation and credibility in your small community when you try and profit off of the same people who have been cutting you deals on other stuff for years.

Pay it forward is the correct term. Making a profit is by no means a bad thing like so many people these days want to make it out to be but there are unintended consequences that do come with situations like this. There is a clear distinction between living the free market system and making a profit and price gouging. It becomes VERY clear when you sell your neighbor a $700 AR-15 for $2500 and then three weeks later it's only worth $700 again.

Is it your neighbors own damn fault for participating in that jackassery? Of course it is. Doesn't mean he won't feel resentment towards you for taking advantage of him and that will affect all interactions with him in the future. Just keep that in mind when you go to sell it to your best friend.
This is exactly why I wanted opinions. YJWhynot and I had this same conversation last night. I made a few bucks and the buyer was happy. The funny part is I'm having a harder time coming to terms on the Bushy that I have for pre-panic prices (with receipts to prove it). I'm confident a deal will be made but not as easily as the cash deal for profit.
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I do have another something to add here for you vehement "OMFG FREE MARKET STFU COMMIE" people.

Why is it suddenly okay for some asshat to charge $1000 for a $350 AK47 and you will defend him to the death screaming about "Free Market!!!!" this and that but if a major retailer such as Cheaper Than Dirt does the same thing you'll all go apeshit against them and join in on the boycotts and vocal opposition?

Is it because they're a big bad corporation? How the fukc does that fit your ideology?

The only way to fix these damn right scammers is to publicly shame them for making it much harder to purchase a firearm, accessories and ammunition. You guys ever think that these people are making it that much harder for us in the long run with their sudden greed by limiting the number of people that join the shooting sports? The more individual gun owners we have the stronger this community is. With each new gun owner comes a new ally in this fight.
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I do have another something to add here for you vehement "OMFG FREE MARKET STFU COMMIE" people.

Why is it suddenly okay for some asshat to charge $1000 for a $350 AK47 and you will defend him to the death screaming about "Free Market!!!!" this and that but if a major retailer such as Cheaper Than Dirt does the same thing you'll all go apeshit against them and join in on the boycotts and vocal opposition?

Is it because they're a big bad corporation? How the fukc does that fit your ideology?

The only way to fix these damn right scammers is to publicly shame them for making it much harder to purchase a firearm, accessories and ammunition. You guys ever think that these people are making it that much harder for us in the long run with their sudden greed by limiting the number of people that join the shooting sports? The more individual gun owners we have the stronger this community is. With each new gun owner comes a new ally in this fight.
The only way to fix it is to not buy their over priced garbage. If I had an ak or ar right now I would list it for double what it was worth, otherwise to me it wouldn't be worth selling.
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The only way to fix it is to not buy their over priced garbage. If I had an ak or ar right now I would list it for double what it was worth, otherwise to me it wouldn't be worth selling.
The only way to "fix this" is to call these fucks out for what they're doing in the small communities. Ripping people off. If this was someone trying to sell a used stock rusty YJ for $10,000 people would be all over them laughing their asses off and making fun of them until it went away. Don't try and deny it either. There's a whole subforum on here dedicated to it in the marketplace where we all post the links for the craigslist/ebay ads for that trash.

So if it's a firearm, accessories or ammo it's taboo for anyone to say anything about it?

For fucks sake.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 10:12 AM   #28
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The only way to "fix this" is to call these fucks out for what they're doing in the small communities. Ripping people off. If this was someone trying to sell a used stock rusty YJ for $10,000 people would be all over them laughing their asses off and making fun of them until it went away. Don't try and deny it either. There's a whole subforum on here dedicated to it in the marketplace where we all post the links for the craigslist/ebay ads for that trash.

So if it's a firearm, accessories or ammo it's taboo for anyone to say anything about it?

For fucks sake.
Nobody forces you to buy anything anywhere. If you feel it is overpriced, find one that is not. You calling people out just makes you look like a whiny douche.

That said, I did giggle about your for sale ad for the guns. However if somebody actually willing paid you 15k, your hypocritical ass would take it. Your ammo one is not so funny.
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Nobody forces you to buy anything anywhere. If you feel it is overpriced, find one that is not. You calling people out just makes you look like a whiny douche.

That said, I did giggle about your for sale ad for the guns. However if somebody actually willing paid you 15k, your hypocritical ass would take it. Your ammo one is not so funny.
Actually I wouldn't and I really don't give a fukc if I look like a "whiny douche" because I started calling people out.

This whole "Don't like it? Ignore it." mentality is how our country got to where we are. Instead of standing up against blatant fuckings we just lay down and let it pass now because speaking out isn't "nice." Some damn good conditioning we've had.
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Its sounds like you need to go occupy something so you have the proper form to whine about fairness and equality. It's just basic economics. And I feel the same about Cheaper than Dirt, if they want to price themselves out if business, let 'em. I'm sure their competitors will embrace all their lost sales.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 10:39 AM   #31
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Its sounds like you need to go occupy something so you have the proper form to whine about fairness and equality. It's just basic economics. And I feel the same about Cheaper than Dirt, if they want to price themselves out if business, let 'em. I'm sure their competitors will embrace all their lost sales.
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Guys its a whole game like poker . Everyone is gambling on whats going to happen . The buyers believe this is it no more coming in . The sellers bought early and cheap hoping to profit .
The sad part is this hurts the true gun hobbiest . The guys like my self that shoot every week and buy gun to use them. We dont buy because a profit might be made hell I dumped two AR15's a week before the shit went down. Im ok with it because they went to some guys that want them and could finally aford them.
We were almost done with this shit manufacturers were just about caught up this would have been a normal year (or as close as it can get ).
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If you sold it less than you could sell it for the guy who buys it from you would be listing it for more money the second he got home.

I do have mixed feelings on this. In a natural disaster type situation I do hate when gas stations and other essential supply stores drastically raise their prices.
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I've purchased a fair amount of parts and ammo in the last two months and have yet to pay anything over normal "pre freak out" pricing. I get to travel the entire state and stop into a lot of places and for that I find stuff that's still around or that just showed up. I've found most gun shops haven't really raised prices much. Just out of stock on ar stuff and ammo is hit or miss. The worst thing some are doing, if you can call it that, is rationing ammo to five boxes at a time or something. I don't care that they do that either as they're looking out for their customers.

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I started a new AR build the first of the year. I already have all of my parts (except the BCG, it's on backorder till February) and I paid the normal 'pre-panic' prices for everything. Only the private individuals selling stuff are asking triple the price, all of the stores I have bought from are still asking normal price, assuming they have it in stock.
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If you sold it less than you could sell it for the guy who buys it from you would be listing it for more money the second he got home.

I do have mixed feelings on this. In a natural disaster type situation I do hate when gas stations and other essential supply stores drastically raise their prices.
Exactly whats going on . This is why pmags and 223 bullets are behind the counter. They are for the non profiteers guys that are regular customers.
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I started a new AR build the first of the year. I already have all of my parts (except the BCG, it's on backorder till February) and I paid the normal 'pre-panic' prices for everything. Only the private individuals selling stuff are asking triple the price, all of the stores I have bought from are still asking normal price, assuming they have it in stock.
And yet I'm a whiny douche for calling out those individuals who are doing their part to fuel this bull shit.

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And yet I'm a whiny douche for calling out those individuals who are doing their part to fuel this bull shit.

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Markets are demand driven. You're wanting to blame sellers for the people who are out there willingly spending their money. If you want to get an idea look on gunbroker, being an auction it should accuratly reflect what the real market prices are right now. And I'll warn you, its crazy and people have list their mind. These might not be the average prices but I've seen SKSs starting at $0.99, ending over $900. New WASR10s being selling at $1000-1200. We all remember those at Dunhams prices.

I hope and expect things to settle back down, once all the fools part with their money and supply catches back up and nothing happens in the political arena. Or those fools will look smart and all this stuff gets banned and these current prices turn into a steal.
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No different than people who have put tons of money in their jeep and think it's worth what they invested plus the labor to do it. The market will give them a reality check.
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I started a new AR build the first of the year. I already have all of my parts (except the BCG, it's on backorder till February) and I paid the normal 'pre-panic' prices for everything. Only the private individuals selling stuff are asking triple the price, all of the stores I have bought from are still asking normal price, assuming they have it in stock.
The local gun shop had a New S&W (IIRC) 9mm AR and it had a $2600 asking price on it. I have been told it was a $1k gun a month ago. I was hoping because it was a small shop maybe they would have one, but I didn't want it at that price.
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