quotes about the CURRENT gulf war - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > Politics, Government, or Religion Chat
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

Politics, Government, or Religion Chat Bring your flamesuit!

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old October 27th, 2006, 08:10 AM   #1
clarkstoncracker
lol
 
clarkstoncracker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-03-05
Location: OC - MI
Posts: 42,741
iTrader: (40)
Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to clarkstoncracker
Default quotes about the CURRENT gulf war

WHO SAID THESE THINGS?

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."


"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."


"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."


"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."


"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.


"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."


"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."


"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."


"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."


"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."


"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."


"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."


Answers to come shortly.
__________________
clarkstoncracker is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old October 27th, 2006, 08:21 AM   #2
fr3db3ar
KISS MY AVATAR
 
fr3db3ar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Holland
Posts: 5,429
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to fr3db3ar Send a message via AIM to fr3db3ar Send a message via Yahoo to fr3db3ar
Default

Gw?
fr3db3ar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 08:27 AM   #3
Chiefwoohaw
Pokerob is my B*tch!
 
Chiefwoohaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 11,509
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Jammiesann ???
Chiefwoohaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 08:57 AM   #4
RICK
Retired double dipper
 
RICK's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Waterford
Posts: 984
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Hillary, Billy, and Teddy?

Last edited by RICK; October 27th, 2006 at 09:02 AM.
RICK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #5
clarkstoncracker
lol
 
clarkstoncracker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-03-05
Location: OC - MI
Posts: 42,741
iTrader: (40)
Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to clarkstoncracker
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RICK View Post
Hillary, Billy, and Teddy?


DING DING DING

we have a winner!

Isn't it great that the media tells us daily about bush lying about weapons of mass destruction? :tonka:
__________________
clarkstoncracker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 09:34 AM   #6
_F_
Shama Lama Ding Done
 
_F_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Fenton
Posts: 821
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Yahoo to _F_
Default

Whoa! You mean to tell me that Democrats and Republicans both lie!
_F_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 09:48 AM   #7
clarkstoncracker
lol
 
clarkstoncracker's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-03-05
Location: OC - MI
Posts: 42,741
iTrader: (40)
Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to clarkstoncracker
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by _F_ View Post
Whoa! You mean to tell me that Democrats and Republicans both lie!


__________________
clarkstoncracker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 10:32 AM   #8
jamiesann
Senior Member
 
jamiesann's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Grosse Pointe Woods
Posts: 2,888
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmujeeper View Post
Jammiesann ???
dont you have a young communist meeting your late for ?
jamiesann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 11:07 AM   #9
DuffMan
Your Message Here
 
DuffMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: The Ile of Grosse
Posts: 5,845
iTrader: (11)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Making decisions based upon the best available information at a point in time, which is later proven to be incomplete, incaccurate, distorted, or false is not "lying".

So, Bush did not lie. He may have made a decision based on low-quality information - but there was no lying. You can beef all day long about a bad decision, but that's not the same as lying. Complain as you wish, but please be acurate.
__________________
This is the Pub. Leave common sense at the door.
DuffMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 01:06 PM   #10
Mike L
Senior Member
 
Mike L's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-19-06
Location: G.C.
Posts: 270
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Well he is either an Idiot or a Liar. You have to pick one. If a CEO of a company mad decisions on misleading info he would be fired. I expect a President or a CEO to do his homework before making an important decision. Especially if peoples lives depend on it.


Now this is the part of this conversation where somebody posts about something a former president did.
Mike L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 01:18 PM   #11
ScOoTeR
hoo dat. wat.
 
ScOoTeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-09-05
Location: Howell
Posts: 21,607
iTrader: (36)
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike L View Post
Well he is either an Idiot or a Liar. You have to pick one. If a CEO of a company mad decisions on misleading info he would be fired. I expect a President or a CEO to do his homework before making an important decision. Especially if peoples lives depend on it.


Now this is the part of this conversation where somebody posts about something a former president did.
No, this is where I post this for your (blatantly) ignorant ass: I like you, why don\\\\\\\\\\'t you try to...
__________________
@clarkstoncracker
ScOoTeR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 27th, 2006, 01:23 PM   #12
jamiesann
Senior Member
 
jamiesann's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Grosse Pointe Woods
Posts: 2,888
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike L View Post
Well he is either an Idiot or a Liar. You have to pick one. If a CEO of a company mad decisions on misleading info he would be fired. I expect a President or a CEO to do his homework before making an important decision. Especially if peoples lives depend on it.


Now this is the part of this conversation where somebody posts about something a former president did.
i would just like to point out its not SOOOOO stupid if your political enemies agree with you and have such a universal agreement. Unless they are also stupid, but more likely they didnt want to stick their neck out when it was unknown, then when hindsight is 20/20 they want to use revionsist history and say HOOOOW obvious everything is and neglect their own words. Their words are forgotten. You dont see those quotes on the news or any the talk shows or supposed political know it all pundits.

Not just the CEO would be fired. And not always either, you have to look at where the info came from and their agenda. A better analogy would be entire industries making a move towards a goal or away from a risk. Then atleast in the mean time not being universally judged favorably. Like wall street jumping on the dotcom bandwagon even shitty sites with no business plan, realeaste speculators in californian, or big business going to china. How dumb can you be WHEN EVERYONE is doing it Mike L. A whole lot of countires were worried about iraq. so much so that despite passing multiple UN resolutions the UN was to pussified to go in there. The UN clearly thought he had something, and all the member nations who voted FOR the resolutions AND didnt act are the ones that are dumb.
jamiesann is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 28th, 2006, 02:40 AM   #13
Mike L
Senior Member
 
Mike L's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-19-06
Location: G.C.
Posts: 270
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScOoTeR View Post
No, this is where I post this for your (blatantly) ignorant ass: I like you, why don\\\\\\\\\\'t you try to...

I love pissing people off when they have no good response.
Mike L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 28th, 2006, 10:11 AM   #14
Mongo
.
 
Mongo's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-25-06
Location: Fenton
Posts: 8,046
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike L View Post
I love pissing people off when they have no good response.
Maybe not good but funny.
Mongo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 28th, 2006, 12:54 PM   #15
brewmenn
Grumpy old man.
 
brewmenn's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Inkster, MI
Posts: 10,579
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

It's those people who initially supported this war, and now oppose it that really piss me off. If you supported it from the begining and still think it was a good idea and worth the cost, financially, politically, and in human lives, then we just disagree on the benifits vs. cost, and perhaps you are just more optimistic that it will lead to a favorable outcome. But if you initially supported it and now think it was not worth the cost then I think you.re an idiot. You apperently were looking at the world through "rose colored glasses" thinking that once we defeted thier military it would be all hugs and smiles and that they would enthusiacticlly embrace the government we put in place. That rarely happens, at least not quickly. If someone else told you this would happen you're an idiot for believing it.
brewmenn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 28th, 2006, 01:41 PM   #16
ScOoTeR
hoo dat. wat.
 
ScOoTeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-09-05
Location: Howell
Posts: 21,607
iTrader: (36)
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike L View Post
I love pissing people off when they have no good response.

Okay, here's a good response:

You are a troll that found a political forum to post your feelings in. That would be great, however, you use typical antagonistic responses instead of inviting any rational or educational debate, i.e.:

Quote:
Making decisions based upon the best available information at a point in time, which is later proven to be incomplete, incaccurate, distorted, or false is not "lying".

So, Bush did not lie. He may have made a decision based on low-quality information - but there was no lying. You can beef all day long about a bad decision, but that's not the same as lying. Complain as you wish, but please be acurate.
Your response:
Quote:
Well he is either an Idiot or a Liar. You have to pick one. If a CEO of a company mad decisions on misleading info he would be fired. I expect a President or a CEO to do his homework before making an important decision. Especially if peoples lives depend on it.


Now this is the part of this conversation where somebody posts about something a former president did.
Instead of offereing any insight or useful information, you cite the above. Your statement is very contradictory, since that's what the former president did. Through your incipient slam on current leadership, you "cleverly" close the door by predicting the next person's response. How can anyone respond without the "Omnipotent Mike L" saying "See! I told you so! I'm so smart!!!1!"

If anything, you are an annoyance at best. I place you in the same group of persons that claim they are interested in what you think - only as an excuse to belabor the person with your own views.

You're a veteran?
__________________
@clarkstoncracker
ScOoTeR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 28th, 2006, 01:59 PM   #17
Mike L
Senior Member
 
Mike L's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-19-06
Location: G.C.
Posts: 270
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Why yes I spent 10 years in the Submarine force. And yes you are pissed off. And I cant wait for your next pissed off response. Mabye another link to dicks in a bag will be a good one for you. This is fun for me by the way.

Most forums I go to do not allow Political or religous posts. I come here to learn about Jeeps. I dont have much to say so I read and learn. I am 38 years old and have been in to politics since I was 16 This is where I do have a lot to say. I find this site a little one sided so I like to contribute to the other side. If you cant handle my responses put me on your ignore list. I know what I am talking about and I love to see people get pissed off over politics and religion.

You are the type that makes my day.

Last edited by Mike L; October 28th, 2006 at 02:01 PM.
Mike L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 28th, 2006, 03:12 PM   #18
DuffMan
Your Message Here
 
DuffMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: The Ile of Grosse
Posts: 5,845
iTrader: (11)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Welcome Mike.

We welcome dialouge, but (at least I) try not to make it personal. I too enjoy sparring, when it's intelligent discourse.

I would expect at least as much from a former bubblehead - even if he wasn't a nuke. :tonka:
__________________
This is the Pub. Leave common sense at the door.
DuffMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 28th, 2006, 04:09 PM   #19
ScOoTeR
hoo dat. wat.
 
ScOoTeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-09-05
Location: Howell
Posts: 21,607
iTrader: (36)
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike L View Post
Why yes I spent 10 years in the Submarine force. And yes you are pissed off. And I cant wait for your next pissed off response. Mabye another link to dicks in a bag will be a good one for you. This is fun for me by the way.

Most forums I go to do not allow Political or religous posts. I come here to learn about Jeeps. I dont have much to say so I read and learn. I am 38 years old and have been in to politics since I was 16 This is where I do have a lot to say. I find this site a little one sided so I like to contribute to the other side. If you cant handle my responses put me on your ignore list. I know what I am talking about and I love to see people get pissed off over politics and religion.

You are the type that makes my day.

No, I'm not pissed. But it is clear that youconsider yourself smarter than the other side and will post what you need to be argumentative.

Thanks for serving.
__________________
@clarkstoncracker
ScOoTeR is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > Politics, Government, or Religion Chat

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:31 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.34183 seconds with 77 queries