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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:45 AM   #21
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Yes. Many of my customers over the last 5one years were German companies, or Japanese. Those who are bilingual in those languages can make very good money.
x2, unless she doesn't want to go into engineering or manufacturing. Say if she wanted to go the medical route, Spanish would be a better choice.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:47 AM   #22
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:51 AM   #23
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I took German for 3 years in high school. The cool thing about taking a language class, is you learn a lot about the history of the country of the language your learning. So we learned about Germany, their traditions, differences, where the Germans settled in MI, etc. I really enjoyed the class. Although I forgot almost everything I learned

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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:52 AM   #24
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Spanish, definitely a no brainier to me. You'd be surprised how helpful speaking spanish will be
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:54 AM   #25
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My wife speaks German and is a CPA. When she was looking for work, her German language skills were quite an asset because of all the German firms in the area.

I work in economic development and site location helping to bring new firms here and helping existing firms expand. We often get requests from firms looking for engineers, analysts, accountants, etc. who speak German (or Korean, Japanese, or Chinese). I have never once had a firm come to me and say, "We have these $60k+ jobs that we want to fill but need somebody who speaks Spanish!"

Yes, there are a lot of Spanish speakers but it is still not a language of business and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
I've gotten exactly one request from a Spanish company looking to do business in the US for a Global Account Manager who was bilingual Spanish. I have gotten TONS of orders for german speaking engineers/other automotive positions and quite a few for japanese (though today I only support nissan so no surprise that the japanese requests will increase)
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:30 AM   #26
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I want her to make her own choices so she is excited to go to the class. If I make her do spanish I have a feeling she may not excel in it because she doesnt want to be there.

I guess my main concern was making sure her choice wasnt a useless one.

Thanks for all the input.
this is a big plus too.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:39 AM   #27
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German no question. Any Spanish speakers who matter are already bilingual. Unless you want her to work in lawn care or a prison.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:47 AM   #28
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We need to know what her career interests are. Spanish is going to be more useful in service related jobs (healthcare, tech support, sales) where German will be more useful in technical/engineering related jobs, and upper management.

Last year, I could have had a job paying 3x my current rate if I spoke German, it also would have meant that I would be living in Germany and visiting the US.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 09:43 AM   #29
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we do alot of work with the germans, we buy equipment from them (hermle, haas) and do work for them (BMW)
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Old January 11th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #30
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IMO, take what she is interested in. Then she will, you know, be interested in it, and try.


Now, corporate wise, its not really a big deal, unless you already somehow know what job she is going to have in the future.

I work for a very large german company. I speak some german, but also, our 'official' coroprate language is English, all documents are in english. Most people who travel to germany from our office do not speak any german.

Our most frequent travel location is mexico, so I speak spanish fairly well (several years of classes and lots of time in mexico). But most here in my office do not.

I could say the same about China. No one here who isn't chinese speaks Mandarin.

Our liasons to Korea and Japan are from there. The guys we otherwise send aren't. They don't respect americans anyway, so we always have our local guys who are bilingual there anyway.

German and Spanish are both very useful in both professional and personal life, and easy to learn. If you want to learn an Asian language, its a lot more work, and I wouldn't suggest it unless you really wanted to do something with it.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 10:27 AM   #31
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You know a lot of Germans in America?
For automotive, think of Volkswagen and Mercedes. There are a lot of Germans in the Tuscaloosa area here.

The question: Will she study harder/do better if she can study and practice with her friends?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 11:02 AM   #32
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I've gotten exactly one request from a Spanish company looking to do business in the US for a Global Account Manager who was bilingual Spanish. I have gotten TONS of orders for german speaking engineers/other automotive positions and quite a few for japanese (though today I only support nissan so no surprise that the japanese requests will increase)
I know this is venturing off topic since it's not one of the choices at the OP's daughter's school but... You know how many requests we get for off the wall languages like Russian, Swedish, or Hungarian? If you are even remotely fluent in one of those languages, have another useful skill, and know how to behave in an office and not be a total troll, you can probably find a very good paying job at some hi-tech firm pretty quickly.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 11:07 AM   #33
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You know a lot of Germans in America?
? there's a shiton of us around - hell there's still the U.G.A.R.S. Park on Cass Lake (United German-American Recreational Society)

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Yes. Many of my customers over the last 5one years were German companies, or Japanese. Those who are bilingual in those languages can make very good money.
not to mention the number of companies that hire direct that have a major corporate presence, or even divisions in Germany - small firm like Siemens is truly global but knowing German certainly wouldn't hurt someone's ability to advance/relocate.

couple good friends also spent 5 years there as GM employees.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 12:52 PM   #34
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There are plenty of large German companies, Bosch, Siemens, Continental, Volkswagen, Thyssen, etc.


I think people are taking it a bit serious. Kid's in 8th grade. Take a class that is interesting, so she gets a good grade.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 01:36 PM   #35
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one of my close buddys who works in metal fab work for a company was working on the machines at Cooper Standard here in town and the company brought over 4 german guys to help along with the repairs. Some of them spoke english, or certain phrases of english but that was it, the other 2 didnt speak english. It was awesome they came and partied with us for the few weeks they were here and they showed us drinking games and all sorts of shit, even taught one of them that its proper to tip your waitstaff in the U.S.

To answer the op question, I would suggest spanish or German, my gf's kids go to boyne and her daughter who is 6 and son who is 12 can both speak spanish pretty well and they learned in school, apparently some schools make it manditory now.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #36
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There are plenty of large German companies, Bosch, Siemens, Continental, Volkswagen, Thyssen, etc.


I think people are taking it a bit serious. Kid's in 8th grade. Take a class that is interesting, so she gets a good grade.
I forgot about a few of those.

I think its being taken somewhat seriously because the OP wanted to make sure she chose a language that would be useful in the future. Imagine if she sticks with it and does 4 years of german in high school, gets a business degree, engineering degree, human resources degree, teaching degree, or other and does another 4 years of german in college and can walk into an interview as an entry level candidate who fluently speaks german with 9 years of german classes on top of her 16 years of english, looks a bit more attractive now doesn't it?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 01:42 PM   #37
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Let her take what she wants. If she doesn't take that language 4 years in high school and regularly lose it she will be very far from fluent and forget anything. I took 2 years of German in High School and 1 year in college but would still not have considered myself ever being fluent, I could get by speaking to someone in German but would probably fumble a bit. When she decides on a career path she can always learn another language as well.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 01:55 PM   #38
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My German came in handy twice in my life
1. when I worked in a wood shop and the repair manuals for the German machines were published in nazi
2. I pirated a workshop manual for a motorcycle and it ended up being a deutsch edition
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Old January 11th, 2013, 02:09 PM   #39
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We need to know what her career interests are. Spanish is going to be more useful in service related jobs (healthcare, tech support, sales) where German will be more useful in technical/engineering related jobs, and upper management.

Last year, I could have had a job paying 3x my current rate if I spoke German, it also would have meant that I would be living in Germany and visiting the US.
I work in health care and wish i was fluent is Spanish on a daily basis.
Once in a blue moon i have a patient that speaks German but every one of them had also spoke English.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 02:09 PM   #40
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I wish they had offered German when I was in school. I think it would have came in handy a few times at work. We have lots of German engineered equipment at work.
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