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Old January 10th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #1
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Been getting mixed reviews about weather i should buy this vehicle or not for a 4.0 swap into my ranger.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ptd/3491888437.html

Just need to know what you guys think.

Forgot to mention that this is not the normal user this is his younger brother.


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Old January 10th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #2
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Find a Explorer/Mountaineer for the 5.0L swap.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 09:31 PM   #3
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I've considered this as an option, but I am content with just having the 4.0 in my truck, as well as i am short on cash and my trans is going out, and would like this done before that happens. Sucks being a poor college student. (;
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Might help if you add a few details. Are we suposed to know what your ranger is, or what motor is in it?
What are you trying to do with your ranger?

The ranger in the pick has no details, like how many miles are on it, how it ran.
I try not to buy fords I cant drive because you dont know if they have a junk trans. At least you have this idiots gurentteed it'll be a bad ass truck.
The sohc 4.0 ford is a problematic pos in my exsperience.
The 4.0 ohv in my 99 explorer is a underpowered turd that is known to have head gasket/cracked head problems.
Why would ANYONE, swap a 4.0 into anything?

O ya one last thing. Ford trans are known to be weak. The ranger you are thinking of buying was lifted, has bigger tires, and was probobly "used hard". Because of the stock gearing , under powered 4.0 , and big tires the trans is likely not the best.

If you have a 2.3 ranger realize it may be under powered, but next to the 300 six it is imo the best thing ford ever built.
Fix your trans, save your knuckles and money till you can afford a swap that makes sence.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 10:33 AM   #5
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Might help if you add a few details. Are we suposed to know what your ranger is, or what motor is in it?
What are you trying to do with your ranger?

The ranger in the pick has no details, like how many miles are on it, how it ran.
I try not to buy fords I cant drive because you dont know if they have a junk trans. At least you have this idiots gurentteed it'll be a bad ass truck.
The sohc 4.0 ford is a problematic pos in my exsperience.
The 4.0 ohv in my 99 explorer is a underpowered turd that is known to have head gasket/cracked head problems.
Why would ANYONE, swap a 4.0 into anything?

O ya one last thing. Ford trans are known to be weak. The ranger you are thinking of buying was lifted, has bigger tires, and was probobly "used hard". Because of the stock gearing , under powered 4.0 , and big tires the trans is likely not the best.

If you have a 2.3 ranger realize it may be under powered, but next to the 300 six it is imo the best thing ford ever built.
Fix your trans, save your knuckles and money till you can afford a swap that makes sence.
Sorry forgot about details. My ranger is a 2000 XLT Supercab with a 3.slow 4x4. Has the open 8.8 with the 4.10s, and approximately 155k miles on motor and trans. The one in the ad is a 2001 with 92k on motor and trans. The owner of it has said it has been driven after the roll and everything works fine and is smooth.

Im just looking to get some more power(not alot though) than my 3.slow. there is not enough low end grunt to do anything, get up and go sucks, and towing would be a bitch to do. I am just looking to lift for some off-road use, and wanting to get bigger tires, which the 3.0 might have a hard time handling.
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If the 4" superlift and the motor/trans are usable then you probably have a decent deal. Don't be disappointed when that drive train needs work and is not all it's cracked up to be.

Personally, i wouldn't spend all that time just to get that 4.0 in. Especially not when 5.0 are practically drop ins.

Make sure you replace the timing chain setup on the 4.0 before it goes in anything.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:16 PM   #7
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Might help if you add a few details. Are we suposed to know what your ranger is, or what motor is in it?
What are you trying to do with your ranger?

The ranger in the pick has no details, like how many miles are on it, how it ran.
I try not to buy fords I cant drive because you dont know if they have a junk trans. At least you have this idiots gurentteed it'll be a bad ass truck.
The sohc 4.0 ford is a problematic pos in my exsperience.
The 4.0 ohv in my 99 explorer is a underpowered turd that is known to have head gasket/cracked head problems.
Why would ANYONE, swap a 4.0 into anything?

O ya one last thing. Ford trans are known to be weak. The ranger you are thinking of buying was lifted, has bigger tires, and was probobly "used hard". Because of the stock gearing , under powered 4.0 , and big tires the trans is likely not the best.

If you have a 2.3 ranger realize it may be under powered, but next to the 300 six it is imo the best thing ford ever built.
Fix your trans, save your knuckles and money till you can afford a swap that makes sence.
Sorry, but this is laughable. While I agree that a 5.0 swap makes more sense in almost every way, anyone that drives a Chrysler product should know better than to comment on another's transmission woes.
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Rangers are the red head step child of off roading. The engines available are just big enough to move the truck and haul a bag of chips in it. The axles are under sized to run any decent sized tires unless you are rolling over someone's flower bed. I had a ranger, I was happy when the head cracked on it, I cut that puppy to pieces.

If you are keeping the ranger, get the 5.0 from an explorer/mountaineer. The swap will be simple and straight forward. If you are going to be hauling trailers, just step up to a half ton that will be able to do what you need.
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Old January 13th, 2013, 11:53 AM   #9
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Sorry, but this is laughable. While I agree that a 5.0 swap makes more sense in almost every way, anyone that drives a Chrysler product should know better than to comment on another's transmission woes.
Did I say mopar builds a good trans you stupid fuk? Nope. I realize mopar stuff sucks thats why I tell people not to buy mopars. Dumb fuk.
The fact remains that ford trans suck,period. Dipshit. Reread the ops post and you will see that his trans is already junk. Stupid fuckers. If you have nothing to add besides bullshit shut the fukc up.
What makes sence is selling the 3.0 ranger and buying a truck more suited to wheeling on a collage kids budget.

Not to forget that the ax15 in my jeep is a fukc of a lot stronger then the t5 they put in 5.0 mustangs. Newer Mustangs got tremecs while vipers get the t56. My ford freinds swap the junk tremec for a t56 as soon as the tremec breaks. Most of my drag racing freinds run powergluides of turbo 400s behind non chevy motors. Should he put a power gluide in it? Maybe a 4l80e?
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@ - BDD - You've certainly out-witted me. Your masterful use of obscenities while accepting the only premise of my post was brilliant ["mopar stuff sucks" (presumably in reference only to transmissions)].

Thank you for your participation.

@ - original poster, I'm not sure how well your front axle will hold up to the 302, but that is still a better swap if you're looking to upgrade. If you're looking to simply have a vehicle that you can play off road with while not spending a lot of time and money, have your current tranny rebuilt and be done with it. Drivetrain swaps/upgrades are almost always a lot of work and a lot more money than they seem to be up front.
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@ - BDD - You've certainly out-witted me. Your masterful use of obscenities while accepting the only premise of my post was brilliant ["mopar stuff sucks" (presumably in reference only to transmissions)].

Thank you for your participation.

@ - original poster, I'm not sure how well your front axle will hold up to the 302, but that is still a better swap if you're looking to upgrade. If you're looking to simply have a vehicle that you can play off road with while not spending a lot of time and money, have your current tranny rebuilt and be done with it. Drivetrain swaps/upgrades are almost always a lot of work and a lot more money than they seem to be up front.
I was not trying to outwit you. I apologize for my obsenities. I get really sick of personal attacks on me with nothing to back it up. I dont buy many fords, only two in the last thirty years, and close to a hunded vehicals. I do maintain a fleet of fords, and hang around with mostly ford guys. I have replaced more ford trans then chevy, dodge, honda, toyota, combined. Im not saying all ford trans suck, the c4 and c6 can be made to be very strong.
I am saying ford exoplorers and rangers have weak trans in the best situation. When you add lift kits, big tires, and dont change gearing it makes a weak trans work much harder.
If you disagree about ford trans I can show you 5-6 explorers within 10 minutes of my house that need transmission work. The years range from 1995 to 2001, iirc it has the independent rear axle. Even my ford freinds dont brag about their trans.
The ops trans is junk, as is the trans in my 99 explorer. Your experience may very.

If you have to post something try to add details and facts instead of just personally attacking someone. The results are usually better.
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Back on track.

If you love your truck and know how to swing wrenches dont be afraid of doing a engine/trans swap. It's best if you have someone with hands on exsperience helping you.
Do realize that it will take a lot longer and a lot more money then you plan on. I would not even consider this if you cant live without your truck for a month, at least.
In a perfect world a guy that has done it could probobly do it in a weekend, we dont live in a perfect world.
If I was you, and you want to keep your truck, I would buy a cheap, beater car and start saving your money. While you are saving you can research the swap you plan on, and line up all of your parts. The little trips to autozone for that part you forgot add up fast.

If the ranger you posted didnt wreck the lift kit in the roll, and the trans and motor are decent you could part it out. You could keep the lift and sell the left overs, along with your 3.0. Maybe use the money for a 5.0 swap.
If you are not in love with your truck sell it and buy something that is a better dd/ wheeler. Or buy a dd, and a dedicated wheeler.
A jeep xj, chevy tracker, or toyota make a very capable rig that can be driven daily and still leave money for ramon noodles, mac n cheese, and beer.
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