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Old March 15th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #101
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my power/ gas bill two months ago was 327 dollars this last month it was 105 dollars.

this is with my home made boiler that i self installed into my 1760 sq foot home
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Old March 15th, 2013, 07:18 PM   #102
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my power/ gas bill two months ago was 327 dollars this last month it was 105 dollars.

this is with my home made boiler that i self installed into my 1760 sq foot home
That's great!
I just got a electric bill with a letter that they are changing how the bill, higher monthly charge. The note says your bill may decrease stay the same or increase. I figured mine out with the new rates, guess what. Yep higher.
Anybody figure a cheap dependable way to have electric without the power company?
My highest electric bill this year was $72.81 would be 90 ish with new rates.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 07:34 PM   #103
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I told the wife I was buying a windmill next
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Old March 15th, 2013, 07:52 PM   #104
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I told the wife I was buying a windmill next
I love old windmills. Would like to have one but I live in trees. Solar, wind, not great options. Now if instead of giving kick backs to power company's for windmill farms they gave neighborhoods that money for local windmills ...
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Old March 15th, 2013, 08:40 PM   #105
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That's great!

My highest electric bill this year was $72.81 would be 90 ish with new rates.
I haven't seen a $72 dollar electrical bill years.
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Small home single try to keep it low. Low income too.
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100% not worth it...I checked into it
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My electric bill is 200+ every month. Just me and the wife.. She don't like dark...
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My electric bill is 200+ every month. Just me and the wife.. She don't like dark...
I have propane stove, dryer.
I unplugged my small second fridge, and sold my freezer to see my electric bill increase! I have changed a lot of bulbs to CFL's . But they are burning out so I replacing them back with the light bulbs I removed.
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I have propane stove, dryer.
I unplugged my small second fridge, and sold my freezer to see my electric bill increase! I have changed a lot of bulbs to CFL's . But they are burning out so I replacing them back with the light bulbs I removed.
so whats your actual energy bill know that we know you are also using propane. my electric only is 87 with a wife and a kid and we suck at turning lights off
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I know three friends that have out door wood furnaces, they all use between 12 and 15 full cord per year, they cut pieces longer so the cutting splitting is diminished from standard size wood, however the amount of moving the wood is significantly more than any other form or wood heat, from years past. The neighbors classic, has problems two times a year with a pump going bad, and most famously with the draft door sticking open from the servo motor going bad or being stuck open by creosote, which causes the furnace to over heat and blow steam 50 feet in the air. Two times I have stopped and helped put out fires that it has created in his wood pile when he is gone to work, from embers blowing off the smoke stack, he keeps his wood pile on the east of his furnace and the wind blows embers or sparks off the chimney or out the front door and caused two separate ground fires. When the power goes out, the pump stops circulating, they loose heat in the house and the furnace will over heat, when the fire box cools off you have to worry about it freezing. I go and put wood in it or they have family members put wood in it while gone on vacation.

We like to cut wood to heat with, we do not like to cut and haul 15 cord per year.
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I know three friends that have out door wood furnaces, they all use between 12 and 15 full cord per year, they cut pieces longer so the cutting splitting is diminished from standard size wood, however the amount of moving the wood is significantly more than any other form or wood heat, from years past. The neighbors classic, has problems two times a year with a pump going bad, and most famously with the draft door sticking open from the servo motor going bad or being stuck open by creosote, which causes the furnace to over heat and blow steam 50 feet in the air. Two times I have stopped and helped put out fires that it has created in his wood pile when he is gone to work, from embers blowing off the smoke stack, he keeps his wood pile on the east of his furnace and the wind blows embers or sparks off the chimney or out the front door and caused two separate ground fires. When the power goes out, the pump stops circulating, they loose heat in the house and the furnace will over heat, when the fire box cools off you have to worry about it freezing. I go and put wood in it or they have family members put wood in it while gone on vacation.

We like to cut wood to heat with, we do not like to cut and haul 15 cord per year.
Sounds like he has some issues...
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I know three friends that have out door wood furnaces, they all use between 12 and 15 full cord per year, they cut pieces longer so the cutting splitting is diminished from standard size wood, however the amount of moving the wood is significantly more than any other form or wood heat, from years past. The neighbors classic, has problems two times a year with a pump going bad, and most famously with the draft door sticking open from the servo motor going bad or being stuck open by creosote, which causes the furnace to over heat and blow steam 50 feet in the air. Two times I have stopped and helped put out fires that it has created in his wood pile when he is gone to work, from embers blowing off the smoke stack, he keeps his wood pile on the east of his furnace and the wind blows embers or sparks off the chimney or out the front door and caused two separate ground fires. When the power goes out, the pump stops circulating, they loose heat in the house and the furnace will over heat, when the fire box cools off you have to worry about it freezing. I go and put wood in it or they have family members put wood in it while gone on vacation.

We like to cut wood to heat with, we do not like to cut and haul 15 cord per year.
how does it over heat with the power off? the draft door would be closed
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so whats your actual energy bill know that we know you are also using propane. my electric only is 87 with a wife and a kid and we suck at turning lights off
I'm willing to bet about 45% higher than it would be to run those items off electricity.
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sarry, I've been trying to figure this one out for the last 8 years. There is no way to make it cost effective. I've even tried the solar/wind combo, and it just doesn't work
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Sounds like your neighbor owns a pos. Mine snuffs its self out if I cut power to it.
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I haul my wood 40lbs at a time in plastic bags.
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Burned 3 tons so far this year.
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how does it over heat with the power off? the draft door would be closed
This specific wood furnace, which is the only central boiler that I have heard this of, has problems with the draft door sticking open, the door, servo motor all of it has been replaced. So it sticks open.

When the power goes out, it simply over heats from no circulation, he has always operated the furnace at 180 so it is closer to boiling than others operating at 160 etc.

So the boiling over thing is a real problem when the power goes out, as it blows the water out then their is no way to get water to pour into it after over heating,

He has had the service tech out to look at the door and replaced several parts, in the last eight years, I have even believed that the stack is to short and allows it to down draft in the chimney because it goes under vacuum, I know you believe that is impossible, but I really believe it starts down drafting under draft door closed condition, when their is a large fire in the furnace.
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