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Old January 7th, 2013, 06:51 PM   #41
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The state doesn's have ATV trails...it has forest trails that say very clearly "vehicles" not ATV's
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Old January 7th, 2013, 06:53 PM   #42
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Yeah but if it weren't for engineers you still be chasing us on horseback!
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Engineers don't live in the real world where things aren't black and white.
Without engineers you wouldn't have a tape measure to check what 50" is.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 07:26 PM   #44
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Clearly spelled out in the law, and clearly what is enforced is different. Clearly by law, you can only have sex in the missionary position too (honestly, it's on the books), but what is allowed is another story based on todays world. The laws will stay that way until a case comes up to change the wording or another law is written that contradicts the first, or better yet where the law is more or less ignored because of the "intent" of the law.

Point is, the black and white written law that people think exists just doesn't. There is the letter of the law, the intent of the law, the interpretation of the law, etc. When it comes to something like UTVs, it's just not worth the time or money to push the issue. Have a 50 inch Rzr? Go run ORV trails (50 inch) all day. Have a 65in Rzr XP, get it plated and run ORV Routes and forest roads and everything else that isn't width restricted.
Will you represent me if I get a ticket?
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Without engineers you wouldn't have a tape measure to check what 50" is.
Did you miss the part where I said cops don't carry them to measure this? We aren't smart enough to figure out what all those little lines mean anyway.
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Will you represent me if I get a ticket?
For the record, I'm not an attorney. Only a dumb cop. I will also not admit the things I've admitted here in a court or law, especially if I wrote the ticket. I am only conveying my opinions on how things really work in LE. It's not rocket science and we sure as hell aren't reinventing the wheel. There are things called fairness and discretion. Cops usually attempt to be fair and then use discretion to not be dick bags. Then again, that's not always the case either, so proceed with caution. Still, I wouldn't get too worried about owning a standard Rzr with different wheels that puts it at 50.75 inches.
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If I read ATV trails in this thread one more time I am going to punch someone in the face..

There no "ATV" trails. There are ORV trails and ORV routes. If a 50" RZR goes down an ORV Trail it's legit.

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Next time I am in the shed grabbing trail signs I will look for the ATV Trail signs. I'll report back.
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Now I have to punch myself in the face.
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I'd let you ride it.
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What ATV trails?
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Can I ride it on ATV trails?
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Man O Man what a bunch of HAGGLIN. Ok, ORV TRAILS WILL SHOW A PIC of a ATV OR MORTORCYCLE depending on if it is a 50" or less trail, or a Cycle only trail. ORV Routes have just the words on them. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE, is a horse legal on a ORV Trail/Route/Area, this much I will say, last week there were 8 Horse,s using the Leota Trail, one was a Belgin about 2,000# so who wins that battle.
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Numerous chances for punches in the face, and you pussed out. So I did it for you.

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Man O Man what a bunch of HAGGLIN. Ok, ORV TRAILS WILL SHOW A PIC of a ATV OR MORTORCYCLE depending on if it is a 50" or less trail, or a Cycle only trail. ORV Routes have just the words on them. IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE, is a horse legal on a ORV Trail/Route/Area, this much I will say, last week there were 8 Horse,s using the Leota Trail, one was a Belgin about 2,000# so who wins that battle.
Is the Belgian less than 50 inchs wide?
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