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Old January 4th, 2013, 12:21 PM   #1
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I just don't understand it.

I can understand being a vegetarian if you simply don't like meat, or it doesn't agree with you, etc. I can understand not wanting processed food in your diet and all of that crap.

But for the life of me I can't understand the rationale of not owning or eating anything that comes from an animal or some of the very weak arguments behind it. Such as meat is poison, we were never meant to eat it, and other crap like that. It's like they are ashamed of being at the top of the food chain.

Plants are alive too, but there's no problem in uprooting those poor lives from the ground just to eat them. Sounds like a bunch of hypocritical bullshit to me.

Just figured I'd share this thought with all of you today.
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with you on that.


Especially when they say we were never meant to eat meat LO Fucking L

Our bodies have evolved from eating raw meat as our primary diet, hence the canine teeth, pancreas and gall bladder
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I watched part of Forks over knives one time, interesting stuff but i still eat my red meat.
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AT some point an animal was involved in most anything made, whether directly in indirectly.
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I don't care. To each their own, but I will admit that a primarily vegetable diet is much healthier for our bodies. My mom has been a vegetarian for better than 15 years now, but she will eat fish and shellfish.
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I don't care. To each their own, but I will admit that a primarily vegetable diet is much healthier for our bodies. My mom has been a vegetarian for better than 15 years now, but she will eat fish and shellfish.
Sounds to me like she make sure that her diet is balanced and she is replacing the things that she is missing with out red meat. I have two friends who are vegetarians, one had to change her diet back to one where she was eating meat due to some odd health problems that she was having and have since gone away with the addition of meat. The other is going to have problems with his health. He eats almost exclusively pasta (mac and cheese style pasta) and will order a cheese pizza from time to time. He hates vegetables so I am sure his diet is lacking in iron and other things derived from red meat and select vegetables.
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I don't care. To each their own, but I will admit that a primarily vegetable diet is much healthier for our bodies. My mom has been a vegetarian for better than 15 years now, but she will eat fish and shellfish.
Not arguing that at all. As a population, we eat way too much meat. The Food Pyramid is still a pretty accurate representation of how we should eat. But, just because we as a society eat too much meat doesn't require a radical swing to the extreme opposite of that.
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Sounds to me like she make sure that her diet is balanced and she is replacing the things that she is missing with out red meat. I have two friends who are vegetarians, one had to change her diet back to one where she was eating meat due to some odd health problems that she was having and have since gone away with the addition of meat. The other is going to have problems with his health. He eats almost exclusively pasta (mac and cheese style pasta) and will order a cheese pizza from time to time. He hates vegetables so I am sure his diet is lacking in iron and other things derived from red meat and select vegetables.
Even vegetarians will sometimes eat chicken and fish. They just stay away from red meat. The vegan choice of being completely devoid of all animal flesh is very unhealthy. There are nutrients and vitamins our body needs that can only be found from eating animals.
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i try to sat away from just veggies i tend to feel like shit after i a big salad and nothing else, think its my bodys way of saying stick to stuff that had a face at some point
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How do you know if somebody is a vegan?





They will tell you.
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I have a vegan friend, when he get's out of line, I threaten to whip him with my leather belt.
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I lost a bet with the lady friend a few years ago, and became a vegetarian for 6 months. Maybe I didn't do it right, but it totally sucked ass.
I felt drained all the time, couldn't build muscle, etc. Once I added bloody red meat back to my diet, all was well.
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I lost a bet with the lady friend a few years ago, and became a vegetarian for 6 months. Maybe I didn't do it right, but it totally sucked ass.
I felt drained all the time, couldn't build muscle, etc. Once I added bloody red meat back to my diet, all was well.
There is a lot of good nutrients found in red meats (muscle and organ) if you're eating from quality (local, pastured, grass fed, etc) sources. So that would makes sense that you may have felt better on red meats.

I do a lot of research on different lifestyles with food (raw, vegan, veg, clean, paleo/primal) and the one that makes the most sense to me from a nutrient dense aspect is whole foods from vegetable/fruit and certain well raised animals.

But I get why some people morally go vegan. Well, I don't really deeply understand or relate but can appreciate why they have a love for animals that is so deep they don't want to support the slaughter of them for "our own benefit".

What drives me most crazy about the vegan diet is the heavy consumption of grain and soy...but that is an entirely different thread/topic and only my opinion based of my research.
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How do you know if somebody is a vegan?





They will tell you.
They don't have to tell you, you can see it in their pale almost see through skin that is draped over their flabby muscle-less bodies that look malnurished.

I don't for the life of me understand vegan at all. If you want to go vegan you should also not live in a house, or drive a car or use the internet or anything else that might hurt the mothership.
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They don't have to tell you, you can see it in their pale almost see through skin that is draped over their flabby muscle-less bodies that look malnurished.

I don't for the life of me understand vegan at all. If you want to go vegan you should also not live in a house, or drive a car or use the internet or anything else that might hurt the mothership.
Don't forget about the stink and the hairy legs of theirs wimminz. That said, Mac Danzig is a vegan.
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Bottom line:

Humans are silly stupid nonsensical people. Basically, in life you do what makes you happy.

And everyone does it for their own reasons. To lump everyone together and say you can't understand them is kinda like when people lump all the gun owners or pit bull owners or 4x4 owners together and say they are rednecks or whatever.


I have seen people who eat that diet because of specific health reasons, who actually take graduate level nutrition courses, and do a great job of being wonderfully healthy, better than most of the general public (My parents are like this). I see some who do it for political or ethical reasons who say they don't care about health, its not about being healthy, its about the animals.

Whatever.

In the end, pretty much everything you do in life is just as silly. You go to school to get a job, to buy a Jeep and a TV so you can watch moonshiners and dancing with the stars. Or you spend you life prepping for a disaster. Or you go to church. Or you play sports, or be a student or whatever. We are all monkeys, we live, have kids, and die.
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They don't have to tell you, you can see it in their pale almost see through skin that is draped over their flabby muscle-less bodies that look malnurished.
Again, generalizations.

One of my friends at work is a vegan, and she runs marathons and just completed her first full ironman down in florida a few months ago. And in race condition, she's a woman's size 8.

Arian Foster on the Texans is hardly flabby, muscle less, or pale...
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Don't forget about the stink and the hairy legs of theirs wimminz. That said, Mac Danzig is a vegan.
I think that Arian Foster is also a Vegan and he is a beast, except he gets his protein from eating chicken, so there's that.

I doubt Danzig is 100% vegan, I just can't see an athlete who needs the protein for muscle recovery being able to be a clean 100% vegan.
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