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Old December 28th, 2012, 01:29 AM   #1
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Default First Handgun - 380. or 9mm? Need some lessons!

I have been going to school for the past 3 years now to become a Police Officer and next Fall I will begin the Police Academy. To be honest I have never been much of a gun person, which is probably because at a young age I was put into Martial Arts and relied on that since for self defense. But I realize that the world we live in isn't quite fair when it comes to life or death and being that I am going to be a Police Officer, I think I should start educating myself on Guns.

I have quite a few questions concerning Guns in general, some of which may seem like a dumb question but I see it as the only dumb question is the one never asked. Anywho

Most Police Departments issue the Officer a handgun, in most cases a 9mm I believe. So I am thinking of going for something different, something lightweight, that is easily concealable and easy to use, and reliable. I have been debating between getting a 9mm or a 380. however I am unsure which one would be better. Being that I have a good chance of being issued a 9mm when I'm a Police Officer, I'm almost thinking I should just stay away from it since I'll get one for much cheaper when I become an officer. Also, I hear people say all the time, the bigger the gun/bullet, the more deadly, which is obvious. So it would be obvious that a 9mm would be more powerful than a 380. but I see it as this, its a gun,...won't it pretty much kill/injure someone regardless? My girlfriends dad carries a 357. Magnum on him, and although it is a cool gun, I don't see the point..

So which would be better for everyday carrying? Which one would provide more reliability and practical use? Pricing differences and the like?

One last thing, I was looking at either the 380. Bodyguard or the Ruger LC9 9mm Pistol. Anyone have any experience with either of these and good review?

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Old December 28th, 2012, 04:47 AM   #2
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First thing when it comes to guns there is no stupid or dumb question.

In my opinion with technology these days you can get lots of power in small packages without loosing fire power. I definitely recommend the 9mm for a few reasons, one being ammo, you can find it anywhere. .380 are hard to find sometimes. In a self defense gun you want reliability and .380's are known for jamming, it's going to happen. Now to say the department is going to issue a 9mm as well is ok that just means you can stick up on one type of ammo and shoot it out of both.

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Old December 28th, 2012, 05:43 AM   #3
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if those are the only two choices you want to present, get the 9 mm.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 08:05 AM   #4
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You might want to find a shop that has gun rental so you can actually shoot some of your choices before you buy.
If your wanting to do some shooting to practice before you start the academy you should work with something simular to what you wil carry. Most common one is the glock and good used ones could be had for under 400.
What caliber choice is debatable if cost is a factor 9mm is it. For a new shooter trying to learn the gun expecally a smaller one it is very controllable. I bought the wife a 380 and she hated it . She tried my glock seventeen 9mm and was putting them right in there. I bought a glock nineteen and the same she liked it better yet.
I carry a lcp 380 everyday cause of the size . I practice regularly with it and Im very proficient with but would rather carry something forty caliber or larger but cant risk printing. As to the comment above 380's dont just jam . Either there is a issue with the gun , ammo and/or the shooters grip (limp wrist).
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Most departments issue a .40S&W. I'd recommend getting a service sized handgun in 9mm for your first gun.

Glock 17, M&P 9, etc
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Most departments issue a .40S&W. I'd recommend getting a service sized handgun in 9mm for your first gun.

Glock 17, M&P 9, etc
I can't think of one department in MI that issues a S&W(most are glock and sig)...but if you plan on going to the academy I would buy a fullsize glock 9mm(you are going to have to buy a full size for the academy anyways)...the 9mm is way easier to qualify with than a.40
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i can't think of one department in mi that issues a s&w(most are glock and sig)...but if you plan on going to the academy i would buy a fullsize glock 9mm(you are going to have to buy a full size for the academy anyways)...the 9mm is way easier to qualify with than a.40
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I can't think of one department in MI that issues a S&W(most are glock and sig)...but if you plan on going to the academy I would buy a fullsize glock 9mm(you are going to have to buy a full size for the academy anyways)...the 9mm is way easier to qualify with than a.40
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I can't think of one department in MI that issues a S&W(most are glock and sig)...but if you plan on going to the academy I would buy a fullsize glock 9mm(you are going to have to buy a full size for the academy anyways)...the 9mm is way easier to qualify with than a.40
The M&P is pretty popular form here. Raleigh PD, and Durham PD both carry the M&P .45.
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I know my friend who's a trooper has a sig. But he did say they were switching them out soon but I don't know for what.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #11
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my brother has an LC9 he loves it. apparently they are really popular. good size and easy to conceal.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:04 PM   #12
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I have the body guard 380 and while its a nice gun and very easy to conceal, its hard to shoot. It isn't a very fun target gun because of its short barrel making it not very accurate and 380 isn't cheap. It has a really weird trigger pull, it doesn't shoot until its almost fully pulled. Other than the trigger, I haven't heard any other complaint about them. I just bought an xdm 45 which is much more fun to shoot, but ammo is even more expensive. The cheapest ammo I found is still about $7 every time I empty the clip.
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I know Fenton City PD is using M&P .40's. The guys all like them. If you get a full size 9mm you will enjoy shooting more. If you get a little .380 you will carry more. Just my opinion.
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I can't think of one department in MI that issues a S&W(most are glock and sig)...but if you plan on going to the academy I would buy a fullsize glock 9mm(you are going to have to buy a full size for the academy anyways)...the 9mm is way easier to qualify with than a.40
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I can't think of one department in MI that issues a S&W(most are glock and sig)...but if you plan on going to the academy I would buy a fullsize glock 9mm(you are going to have to buy a full size for the academy anyways)...the 9mm is way easier to qualify with than a.40
He was referring to the cartridge not a specific pistol.

Can't go wrong with a Glock to start with. Stay away from .380 and buy and train with what you think you'll be issued.
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He was referring to the cartridge not a specific pistol.

Can't go wrong with a Glock to start with. Stay away from .380 and buy and train with what you think you'll be issued.
No he wasn't and if he plans on going to the academy I would recommend a fullsize 9mm, who gives a shit what he will be issued
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What academy do you have to buy a gun for?
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What academy do you have to buy a gun for?
any police academy...if you are pre-service that is
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I can't think of one department in MI that issues a S&W(most are glock and sig)...but if you plan on going to the academy I would buy a fullsize glock 9mm(you are going to have to buy a full size for the academy anyways)...the 9mm is way easier to qualify with than a.40
The Detroit police dept are issued s&w m&p 40s, i would do either of the 9mm or a 40mm either would be a good choice the 40 will have a little more stoppin power
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I would go with the 9mm. Go to the gun store and feel how a bunch feel in your hand. That's the important part. Make sure it's comfortable to you,
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