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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:36 AM   #1
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Right now I drive a 2wd ranger which really dosen't do too terribly bad in the snow. But since im part of the plow team at work I need to get to work no matter what. Last winter I about died a few times

Im thinking of buying a winter beater/offroad toy.
Spending limit is $2,000. I would spend a little more for the right rig.

DD wants.
Something 4x4
Something that does decent in the snow
Reliable
I dont care about gas, just needs to start and get me from A to B.
Heat would be good too.

Offroad wants
Something light (not sure if light and good in snow go together)
I pull a 16 foot trailer that weights 2klbs and I pull it with a V-8 explorer. It might be rated to pull 7,000lbs but I would like to keep the total weight under 5k.
Something decent offroad. I might go to the dunes once a year and I do some light trail driving.
Something fairly safe - Dont want something that crumbles into pieces if you dump it over.

I was thinking about a Cherokee. I see them on CL for pretty cheap in decent shape and I have had a few so I know them fairly well. I never really liked them in the snow as they felt too light but yet it felt pretty heavy while I towed it on my trailer. The explorer had plenty of power and the suspension felt fine but I was concerned of what might happen if I get in the wind or other conditions.

Wrangler – I never towed one but I bet they are light, I know they do well offroad. Just not sure how well they do in the snow?

Bronco 2 – I have no idea about weight but from what I hear they do great in the snow.

Any other ideas?

My other idea was to buy a 4x4 beater truck that has a beater plow on it and say fuk having a offroad toy
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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #2
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I was going to say xj
I loved the way mine drove in the snow
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I dont think I would want my offroad toy to be the thing I rely on to get me to work.

And I agree with Denton on the XJ.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:42 AM   #6
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I dont think I would want my offroad toy to be the thing I rely on to get me to work.

And I agree with Denton on the XJ.
X3 but with skinny tires. Trust me!
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3k for a 2.5?!!! That yj may have about 20k worth of life left. Offer 1k
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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:51 AM   #9
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I was going to say xj
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I dont think I would want my offroad toy to be the thing I rely on to get me to work.

And I agree with Denton on the XJ.
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X3 but with skinny tires. Trust me!
x4 an XJ was the first thing that came to my mind also.

Weight is about the same :

97 XJ: 3,300lb
97 TJ: 3,200lb

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Old December 13th, 2012, 08:59 AM   #10
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I would vote XJ as well, but I prefer the 97+. The 96 and down I've always had more rust issues with and more wiring problems IMO. I've never had a Bronco II for the winter so I can't really weigh in on it. As for a plow truck, most of them are pretty beat down and have had some hard lives in that price range.

Good luck with your search
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Old December 13th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #11
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I use to think the same way a few years back, DD, weekend toy, and a workhosre to do my 200' driveway in the winter, my uni-body hated me. It got the job done for as light as it was. look for a K5 if your looking to snowplow with it.

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No way I would plow with it.

Glad to see everyone is thinking XJ as well. Any reason not to own a wrangler of some type?

I do see XJs all over for cheap
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I say get a ZJ, basically because I hate XJs. ZJ as just as light, just as good in the snow and you can plow with them as well....and they look a lot nicer than an XJ
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Old December 13th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #14
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I miss my XJ, might have to get another
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I say get a ZJ, basically because I hate XJs. ZJ as just as light, just as good in the snow and you can plow with them as well....and they look a lot nicer than an XJ
I always thought they where heavy
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Another vote for 97+ XJ!
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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:11 AM   #17
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Wranglers are good in the snow as long as they're in 4wd. In 2wd they're pretty squirrelly because of the short ass wheel base.

Cherokees are cheap, they do well in the snow, there are tons of them in the junkyards for parts, and they're plenty capable off of the pavement.

I'd prefer my old Cherokee to my wrangler in the snow any time.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 11:12 AM   #18
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TJ is short and spins quickly on black ice. I vote for XJ. I have drove one for years and like the look of them alot more than a ZJ. 97+
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No way I would plow with it.

Glad to see everyone is thinking XJ as well. Any reason not to own a wrangler of some type?

I do see XJs all over for cheap
cost.

for the 2k you will get a much more reliable XJ,

I have owned lots of wranglers, and love them, all ranged in price but that price started at 4k and went up

and for winter use I think the XJ is better, mainly due to wheel base as mentioned above. (wranglers are squirrelly in the snow due to short WB)
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