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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #1
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I am looking to get my 10 year old son his first gun. I was looking at a stoeger condor, o/u, youth .410 Some say don't waste the $ on a .410 and get a 20 guage. Thoughts? experience? Thanks
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:25 AM   #2
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Mossberg youth models in 20 gauge, cheap and available. I personally don't see much point in getting a .410, but that's just me.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:31 AM   #3
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My first shotgun was a H&R .410 youth single shot. Good first gun, but I grew out of it QUICK!
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #4
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I got an 870 Wingmaster 20ga when I was 14. I think a 10 year old could handle it. I would skip the .410.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:45 AM   #5
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mmmmm......i just bought my 10 year old a mossberg 500 .410 pump yesterday.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:54 AM   #6
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Pump yes double barrel id avoid just because of recoil.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:57 AM   #7
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I started mine with a .410 (about 8 years old) and moved up to 20 ga at about 10-11. Both started on H&R single shots (the 20 ga is the same one I started on), which I personally like for teaching kids gun/safety and handling. Besides, they're cheap and available.

Boy moved up to a Mossberg 500 20 ga kit (slug & bird barrels) at 14 or so. He's now a 22 years-old wanna-be vegetarian/hipster/artist who could no longer possibly kill anything, so I may have a Mossberg 500 package for sale...

My daughter is pretty small (barely 5' at 26 years old), so the .410 worked well for years. Besides, .410 is fun! Think .410 3" magnum slugs...
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:09 AM   #8
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My 1st gun was a Savage model 24C .22 over a 20 gauge. The 24C is a backpacker special very short so it would fit a smaller person. I don't know if the 24C is still available. I've never seen another one. There were other versions of the model 24. I still have mine, it is all beat up from 35+ years of use & abuse. I would skip the .410 ammo price is ridiculous compared to 12 & 20 and not nearly as easy to find.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #9
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I'd skip the .410 on shell price alone.

Short H&R single 20 would be my vote, give him a couple years to grow and then step up to a pump, auto or double.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #10
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I had a NEF .410/.45 that I loved. Those .45LC rounds are fun to shoot too.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:22 AM   #11
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Get him a 10 gauge, that will make him grow up quick! lol JK
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Old November 29th, 2012, 04:41 PM   #12
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My 1st gun was a 12ga single shot Long Tom with a 36" barrel and I'm not joking. I remember being 5 years old and my dad holding the end of the barrel while I shot it and it knocked me on the ground! My mm said he got an ass kicking when we got home. I still have it to this day and it still kicks like a mule!
Now on to the subject at hand, skip the .410 it's just too small of a gun for a 10yr old. My oldest son's 1st gun was a Mossberg 500 model 20ga pump and it has served him well even though it is a little bit of a rattle trap in the woods. I actually started my other son out on a 12ga Remington 870 and he has done great with it (he was a good sized 10yr old though). I know the 870 model gets it's fair share of bad mouthing around here but for a youth I don't think you could get a better gun for the money especially in the 20ga youth category.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 04:58 PM   #13
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I'm an avid waterfowler and have NOTHING bad to say about the 870. That would be a great choice IMO. If you can, find one of the older "wingmaster"s. Yes, they were made better.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 05:06 PM   #14
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20ga 870 Youth model.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 05:06 PM   #15
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I'm an avid waterfowler and have NOTHING bad to say about the 870. That would be a great choice IMO. If you can, find one of the older "wingmaster"s. Yes, they were made better.
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870 is a fine piece. Like virtually everything, production has been cheapened of late. I was afraid my father would reach out from beyond the grave when I bought the boy a Mossberg (he held a low opinion of them because they used plastic (!) on them in the late 60s...) That being said, I've never seen a Mossberg 500 fail.

Of course, I shoot a Benelli M2...
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Old November 29th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #16
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My first shogun was an H&R bolt action 16 gauge at about age 15. I would definitely say skip the .410 and go for the 20 gauge.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 05:25 PM   #17
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mossberg or remington 20 ga pump is a nice starter.
dont buy him a winchester pump, mine broke the first time i shot it.
it has less than 20 rounds though it.

the h&r single shot is cool too.
skip the .410
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Old November 29th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #18
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.410 bird shot shells are twice as expensive as 20 gauge rounds
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Old November 29th, 2012, 06:03 PM   #19
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I see nothin wrong with a .410
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Old November 29th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #20
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Thanks all! Some great points to look into. Maybe I will wait till after Xmas and have him shoulder a variety of guns and see what he is most comfortable with. I kinda figure he will grow out of any youth model but that just give more opportunity to buy more guns, and you can never have to many.
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