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Old November 26th, 2012, 09:29 AM   #1
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thinking about one of these two SUV's to tow my travel trailer with. Anyone have any experiences good or bad to pass along?
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:08 PM   #2
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Paging jeep bratt.. Her excurison is a diesel. What size trailer?
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:23 PM   #3
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what year suburban?

I think the 2000+ suburban has a nicer interior and ride than the ford (I have same era pick up as excursion).

I haven't driven many excursions but they feel a bit more truck like to me, i'm sure both tow pretty similar.

I would get the suburban myself.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:30 PM   #4
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:31 PM   #5
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I would say Suburban, they ride great, get decent mileage, and parts are less expensive.
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How often, far, and much are you towing? If you could get away with a half ton burban I'd go that route if it will also be a daily driver. The 3/4 ton will tow better but you will be giving up a lot of mileage with the 6.0 or 8.1 vs the 5.3, the 1/2 ton will also ride a lot better.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 05:12 PM   #8
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How often, far, and much are you towing? If you could get away with a half ton burban I'd go that route if it will also be a daily driver. The 3/4 ton will tow better but you will be giving up a lot of mileage with the 6.0 or 8.1 vs the 5.3, the 1/2 ton will also ride a lot better.
That's the problem, won't use it that much as it will be just a tow vechile. I have a 2011 Chevy 1/2 with a 5.3 and it isn't enough truck for the 8000 lb trailer. I'm leaning towards the Suburban with a 8.1, mileage will suck but you can never have too much power!!
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I have an '02 f350 7.3 and an '04 yukon xl (same size as suburban) with 6.0. I was very surprised how well the suburban towed my trailer (around 5000#). Mine has the 4 wheel steer but that shouldn't change anything. IMO the chevy has a more car-like interior but I personally prefer the ford interior.
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I have a 96' burb 2500 (454) and love it. I have a 26' enclosed that I haul with it. doesnt even sweat it...

I have driven excursions. I wouldnt buy a gas one (especially the 5.4) for towing. BUT if you get the 7.3 parts are more expensive.

if you can afford the 00+ model suburban I would go with that. and the 8.1 is over kill. the 6.0 would be fine for you and you would probably still get 14 unloaded.
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I'm loving my 7.3 diesel Excursion. I've owned both this and two Suburbans and would take the Excursion any day. Solid axle, leaf springs, and yes, more truck like.

Another thing to consider is whether the third row seat is important to you or not. It was a big factor with me since I tote around 6 kids. The rear doors on suburbans are just the short rear doors from a crew cab. Excursions have their own special rear doors that are longer and make it easier to get in the third row, which also has more room than a Suburban.

Another thing is what flavor you like your rear most cargo doors in. Most Suburban fans greatly prefer the barn doors for usability. Problem is they have a big post in the middle that limits visability. Excursions have a hatch on top and barn doors on bottom, best of both worlds!
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Suburban all the way. I maintain a pile of fords and wouldnt buy one of their trucks, unless I stold it and had a buyer in mind.
The v10 makes decent power but has all the typical ford problems. Coil packs, exaust studs that are a joke when new and a major pain later. The spark plugs blow out and take threads with them. The trans lines, brake lines,fuel lines all run behind the gas tank and are a pita to fix. Steering colums fall apart. Clutch perches explode. Seats dont hold up nearly as well as a gm product,imo.
I can give you a million reasons not to buy a ford. Cant think of any reason to buy a ford unless it's a smoking deal. Then I would resell asap.

The 8.1 sub with a 4L80 will probobly need a fuel pump at some point. Some early 8.1 had a bad rear main from the get go, most likely recalled. They get shitty gas mileage but probobly no worse then our v10. The 3/4 chevy will likely need some front end work by 100,000 miles, our fords are rebuilt twice by then and still dont drive as well as a used up chev. Im forced to like chevys because I make a living maintaining fords.
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I just bought a 2003 Suburban with the 6.0L and 4:10 gears. 137,000 miles on it . Drives and rides great!
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Old April 8th, 2013, 07:34 PM   #14
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Suburban all the way. I maintain a pile of fords and wouldnt buy one of their trucks, unless I stold it and had a buyer in mind.
The v10 makes decent power but has all the typical ford problems. Coil packs, exaust studs that are a joke when new and a major pain later. The spark plugs blow out and take threads with them. The trans lines, brake lines,fuel lines all run behind the gas tank and are a pita to fix. Steering colums fall apart. Clutch perches explode. Seats dont hold up nearly as well as a gm product,imo.
I can give you a million reasons not to buy a ford. Cant think of any reason to buy a ford unless it's a smoking deal. Then I would resell asap.

The 8.1 sub with a 4L80 will probobly need a fuel pump at some point. Some early 8.1 had a bad rear main from the get go, most likely recalled. They get shitty gas mileage but probobly no worse then our v10. The 3/4 chevy will likely need some front end work by 100,000 miles, our fords are rebuilt twice by then and still dont drive as well as a used up chev. Im forced to like chevys because I make a living maintaining fords.

Yeah cause GM didn't have similar problems .

In the end you will have everybody leaning different ways bias to their expeirences and what they were raised around.
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In the end you will have everybody leaning different ways bias to their expeirences and what they were raised around.
Exactly. Both are good vehicles, and both have their pros and cons.

Being that you are considering a gasser I'd probably lean towards a Suburban anyways. If you can pony up for a Diesel I'd be looking at a 7.3 Excursion or a 93-95 Suburban 6.5
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But I would go with the burb my grandpa has one with the 6.0 pulls our 26 foot boat no problem
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Yeah cause GM didn't have similar problems .

In the end you will have everybody leaning different ways bias to their expeirences and what they were raised around.
True, but....... I know of several "nice" fords that have been scraped, traded in for a huge loss, or are sitting in the weeds because they have a bad gem. You can fix a exaust stud, you cant fix a ford, only put new parts on it.

To the op, google "ford, bad gem?" Before you spend a nickel. Then google 6.0 powerstroke lemon. Have fun reading. I refuse to spend "good" money on a ford when they screw their loyal customers like they have.
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I side strongly with bdd1469 on this one.

bdd1469 read a few posts up, he bought a suburban with a 6.0 in it.

I loved my superduty, until it went to shit in no time flat. Biggest issue was how quickly the truck was rendered useless by what appeared to be a bad GEM module.

I feel so lucky to have traded that truck in when I did and not gotten stuck with an 8,000 lbs heap of scrap in my front yard.
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Yeah cause GM didn't have similar problems .

In the end you will have everybody leaning different ways bias to their expeirences and what they were raised around.
Every GM Gen III & IV thats passed through my garage has had at least 1 exhaust stud busted off, at one end of the head or the other. Just got an LS2 for my Jeep a couple weeks ago, and sure enough the front left and right studs are snapped off.
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