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Old November 29th, 2012, 06:52 AM   #1
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Place to get exhaust (SE GR or Flint)

Need to get exhaust ran in the truck, wanted to go with stacks for fording and should be quieter after the "break in" than dumping right behind the cab.

Anybody know who does good work for a fair price? Was planning on trying to set up an appointment with tuffy in cascade, but wanted to hear if there were anybody else, I have the flanges for the headers, mufflers, and rain caps I'll pick up today.

I just need it turned around quick... gotta have it all done by Wed next week so I can show it at Kettering on Thursday.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 09:52 AM   #2
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Cascade tuffy has treated my pretty well in the past,mostly just turning rotors and drums.
Rainbow muffler on 28th just west of east beltline used to do pretty good work,I dont know if Tim stills owns it or not.I havnt been there in ten yrs.
There is a shop in hastings on m43 right near the river that does nice work,a few freinds have had there pro street cars done by them.
There is a guy on m37 and garbow? That works out of his pole barn,speciallizes in trucks,and does awsume work.I cant think of his name right now but if you pm your number I can tell you exactly where his house is.You could also call Scott at caledinia napa for that guys name/number.Im not sure if that guy is still in bussiness.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #3
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Earlier this spring i meet a member that worked at tuffy on pierson road. No experience with the shop but the guy was a real good guy, his name on here started with a "b". I can't remember the rest.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #4
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Earlier this spring i meet a member that worked at tuffy on pierson road. No experience with the shop but the guy was a real good guy, his name on here started with a "b". I can't remember the rest.
buttercr125?

Good guy.

DOubt he would willingly put "stacks" on a customer's vehicle, because we all know stacks are well....yeah...

Stacks for "fording"?

How deep of water do you plan on going into? What type of water reversion issues do you plan on having with your motor? If you run your exhaust the full length of your truck you would have to have ONE HELL of a negative vaccuum at idle to suck water back up the exhaust and into the engine to cause issues.....outside of that I can not see any reason to be concerned about "fording" and water getting into your motor.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #5
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no silly, this type of fording
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:34 AM   #6
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buttercr125?

Good guy.

DOubt he would willingly put "stacks" on a customer's vehicle, because we all know stacks are well....yeah...

Stacks for "fording"?

How deep of water do you plan on going into? What type of water reversion issues do you plan on having with your motor? If you run your exhaust the full length of your truck you would have to have ONE HELL of a negative vaccuum at idle to suck water back up the exhaust and into the engine to cause issues.....outside of that I can not see any reason to be concerned about "fording" and water getting into your motor.
Backpressure.

I can't run full length because how I have my gas tank routed. Wanted to try to get the tailpipe longer to quiet it down.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 12:09 PM   #7
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Backpressure? Your engine should have plenty of backpressure to run efficiently with mufflers in place, unless you are trying to use too large of exhaust tubing.

so are you looking for enough backpressure or fording abilities or just an excuse to have stacks?

The more tailpipe you put behind the muffler the louder it will be outside the vehicel (it will echo more) but it should move the noise further from the cab, however with stacks you are just going to make it louder in the cab since the exhaust note will be leaving at ear level.

If it is the truck in your avatar there should be plenty of options for routing your exhaust around a gas tank, those trucks have a lot of open space (I've owned 2 of them).
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Old November 29th, 2012, 12:12 PM   #8
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That said.

Muffler N Go in fenton used to do custom exhaust, but the guys that worked there were dickheads, but they did good work. I haven't taken a truck to them in years, probably 10 or so.

Muffler Man in holly has done good work for me in the recent past as well. I do not know if they will do custom work.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 12:35 PM   #9
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Backpressure? Your engine should have plenty of backpressure to run efficiently with mufflers in place, unless you are trying to use too large of exhaust tubing.

so are you looking for enough backpressure or fording abilities or just an excuse to have stacks?

The more tailpipe you put behind the muffler the louder it will be outside the vehicel (it will echo more) but it should move the noise further from the cab, however with stacks you are just going to make it louder in the cab since the exhaust note will be leaving at ear level.

If it is the truck in your avatar there should be plenty of options for routing your exhaust around a gas tank, those trucks have a lot of open space (I've owned 2 of them).
If you look at my rig build thread, there is no longer a bed, the frame is bobbed, and a double is added. To ease in future mods (and fit currently, I need to run the exhaust outside the frame rails. I don't want to run the exhaust behind the tires, because there is very little room behind the tires and the future will bring a multi link setup.

Before she was parked for mods, it was running dual exhaust with glass packs, I added turnouts, that added minimal improvement.

I would think the stacks would direct the sound upward so minimal sound is bouncing off of objects.

If you have a better idea, please explain it to me. Mufflers will be under cab outside of frame rails. Will not be able to route both sides inside of them
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Old November 29th, 2012, 01:09 PM   #10
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Old November 29th, 2012, 01:12 PM   #11
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Cascade tuffy has treated my pretty well in the past,mostly just turning rotors and drums.
Rainbow muffler on 28th just west of east beltline used to do pretty good work,I dont know if Tim stills owns it or not.I havnt been there in ten yrs.
There is a shop in hastings on m43 right near the river that does nice work,a few freinds have had there pro street cars done by them.
There is a guy on m37 and garbow? That works out of his pole barn,speciallizes in trucks,and does awsume work.I cant think of his name right now but if you pm your number I can tell you exactly where his house is.You could also call Scott at caledinia napa for that guys name/number.Im not sure if that guy is still in bussiness.
How much they soak you for turning? J&S does them for $24 a pair for me... gotta do the dually sometime
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Old November 29th, 2012, 01:29 PM   #12
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If you look at my rig build thread, there is no longer a bed, the frame is bobbed, and a double is added. To ease in future mods (and fit currently, I need to run the exhaust outside the frame rails. I don't want to run the exhaust behind the tires, because there is very little room behind the tires and the future will bring a multi link setup.

Before she was parked for mods, it was running dual exhaust with glass packs, I added turnouts, that added minimal improvement.

I would think the stacks would direct the sound upward so minimal sound is bouncing off of objects.

If you have a better idea, please explain it to me. Mufflers will be under cab outside of frame rails. Will not be able to route both sides inside of them
The further you get the tailpipe from your ears the better off you are going to be.

Glasspacks are not quiet, if you want quiet get a quieter muffler.

There are plenty of quiet mufflers you can get that flow decently. I had a truck that had 2.5" mufflers of some knock off generic variety that were fairly quiet, had the mufflers under the cab with about a foot of tail pipe and turndowns, it wasn't loud in or out of the cab (old chevy 350).
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Old November 29th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #13
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sounds to me that youve done a piss pour build and not thinking about the build if you put your gas tank in the way of the exhaust........
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Old November 29th, 2012, 01:46 PM   #14
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sounds to me that youve done a piss pour build and not thinking about the build if you put your gas tank in the way of the exhaust........
I put more priority in protecting the gas tank than the exhaust. Also helps with weight balance
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Old November 29th, 2012, 02:00 PM   #15
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could you fit a muffler between the rockers and frame under the cab or is there no room? I am thinking mufflers and turndowns would be quieter, or maybe a muffler before the stack if you go that route. I think just stacks would not be appealing to listen to for long periods of wheeling and decent mufflers dont kill power very much.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 02:15 PM   #16
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Had the muffler man in Ionia do the exhaust on a 91 1/2 ton dodge like 4 years ago. They did everything behind the headers to the bumper including dual 40 flow masters. I paid like 450 ish all stainless good welds and bends.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 02:35 PM   #17
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The muffler man in Standale does decent work. A friend of mine manages the one in Standale, his dad owns the Standale one and Jenison one I'm pretty sure they both do good work.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 03:32 PM   #18
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could you fit a muffler between the rockers and frame under the cab or is there no room? I am thinking mufflers and turndowns would be quieter, or maybe a muffler before the stack if you go that route. I think just stacks would not be appealing to listen to for long periods of wheeling and decent mufflers dont kill power very much.
It's getting mufflers either way in the place you mentioned between the rockers and frame.

I'm just not sure which would be the better route. (Not listening to the people that flame just because someone considers something as a viable route)
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Old November 29th, 2012, 04:10 PM   #19
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The Muffler Man at beltline and 28 (formerly rainbow) still does great work.
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Stacks on gassers are beyond gay. I can't believe you can't fit one 3" tube through there.

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