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Old October 25th, 2006, 08:13 AM   #1
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Default Fear Mongering.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/1...fearmongering/

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/1...fearmongering/

It's happening.

Don't be afraid.

Isn't it weird how recently George Bush Jr. was talking about how he rarely thought about Osama, now he's using him as a scare tactic? Weird.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 09:13 AM   #2
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I think the President would veto most anti-gun bills even if both the Senate and House would go Democrat, but there is an outside chance that the Dems would attach an anti-gun amendment to a very good bill of some sort, which would force the president to sign. That is the risk, even though it might be small.
I am concerned that we have only two more years to get any more pro-gun bills passed before the next election, and McCain (the front runner for the Republicans) is NOT pro-gun by any means, nor are there any pro-gun Democrats, so it will be a LONG time (probably after I am dead and gone) before any more pro-gun bills will be passed, and the odds are that a LOT more anti-gun bills will be passed if either there is a Republican or Democrat President, and especially if Congress goes Democrat.
I would invite people to LOOK at what Pelosi stands for. She was in a Gay Parade where the head guy of the parade thinks that Man-Boy relationships are just fine. Second, I would invite anyone to look at the gun laws in California and especially San Francisco where Pelosi is from, and tell me why I would vote for a Libertarian or Democrat. I really put this in a no brainer category!!!
I do realize that there may be a pro-gun, a conservative Democrat, but they are the exception, not the rule. If the Democrats take over Congress and then the Presidency, you are voting for a Socialist Welfare State, just like the UK or France, where not even a BB gun is allowed, and where MOST of the Muslim population in these countries are on welfare because they have NOT been assimilated into their cultures, and where a large majority are either terrorists or pro-terrorist. Since most Democrats are against fighting terrorism, either directly or by what they stand for, or by their comments, it is quite evident things will get a LOT worse before it gets better!!! One only has to look at CNN; a pro-terrorist network that is very pro-Democrat and very anti-Republican, recently showed on TV one our soldiers getting killed in Iraq. This only plays into the hands of the terrorists, and it was ONLY a Republican, the Armed Services Committee Chairman that stated that CNN reporters should be pulled as embedded reporters, which, of course, I had thought a LONG time ago!!! CNN, Aljazeera, ABC, and most networks (except Fox News), the New Times, and MOST Democrats are desperately trying to undermine the fight on terrorism!!
So, vote Democrat or Libertarian or Green Party, and watch your FREEDOM and RIGHTS disappear, big time!!!!
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Old October 25th, 2006, 09:29 AM   #3
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I think the President would veto most anti-gun bills even if both the Senate and House would go Democrat, but there is an outside chance that the Dems would attach an anti-gun amendment to a very good bill of some sort, which would force the president to sign. That is the risk, even though it might be small.
I am concerned that we have only two more years to get any more pro-gun bills passed before the next election, and McCain (the front runner for the Republicans) is NOT pro-gun by any means, nor are there any pro-gun Democrats, so it will be a LONG time (probably after I am dead and gone) before any more pro-gun bills will be passed, and the odds are that a LOT more anti-gun bills will be passed if either there is a Republican or Democrat President, and especially if Congress goes Democrat.
I would invite people to LOOK at what Pelosi stands for. She was in a Gay Parade where the head guy of the parade thinks that Man-Boy relationships are just fine. Second, I would invite anyone to look at the gun laws in California and especially San Francisco where Pelosi is from, and tell me why I would vote for a Libertarian or Democrat. I really put this in a no brainer category!!!
I do realize that there may be a pro-gun, a conservative Democrat, but they are the exception, not the rule. If the Democrats take over Congress and then the Presidency, you are voting for a Socialist Welfare State, just like the UK or France, where not even a BB gun is allowed, and where MOST of the Muslim population in these countries are on welfare because they have NOT been assimilated into their cultures, and where a large majority are either terrorists or pro-terrorist. Since most Democrats are against fighting terrorism, either directly or by what they stand for, or by their comments, it is quite evident things will get a LOT worse before it gets better!!! One only has to look at CNN; a pro-terrorist network that is very pro-Democrat and very anti-Republican, recently showed on TV one our soldiers getting killed in Iraq. This only plays into the hands of the terrorists, and it was ONLY a Republican, the Armed Services Committee Chairman that stated that CNN reporters should be pulled as embedded reporters, which, of course, I had thought a LONG time ago!!! CNN, Aljazeera, ABC, and most networks (except Fox News), the New Times, and MOST Democrats are desperately trying to undermine the fight on terrorism!!
So, vote Democrat or Libertarian or Green Party, and watch your FREEDOM and RIGHTS disappear, big time!!!!

you think the dems will be able to take them [rights] away faster than Bush Jr. currently is?
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Old October 25th, 2006, 10:29 AM   #4
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I think the President would veto most anti-gun bills even if both the Senate and House would go Democrat, but there is an outside chance that the Dems would attach an anti-gun amendment to a very good bill of some sort, which would force the president to sign. That is the risk, even though it might be small.
I am concerned that we have only two more years to get any more pro-gun bills passed before the next election, and McCain (the front runner for the Republicans) is NOT pro-gun by any means, nor are there any pro-gun Democrats, so it will be a LONG time (probably after I am dead and gone) before any more pro-gun bills will be passed, and the odds are that a LOT more anti-gun bills will be passed if either there is a Republican or Democrat President, and especially if Congress goes Democrat.
I would invite people to LOOK at what Pelosi stands for. She was in a Gay Parade where the head guy of the parade thinks that Man-Boy relationships are just fine. Second, I would invite anyone to look at the gun laws in California and especially San Francisco where Pelosi is from, and tell me why I would vote for a Libertarian or Democrat. I really put this in a no brainer category!!!
I do realize that there may be a pro-gun, a conservative Democrat, but they are the exception, not the rule. If the Democrats take over Congress and then the Presidency, you are voting for a Socialist Welfare State, just like the UK or France, where not even a BB gun is allowed, and where MOST of the Muslim population in these countries are on welfare because they have NOT been assimilated into their cultures, and where a large majority are either terrorists or pro-terrorist. Since most Democrats are against fighting terrorism, either directly or by what they stand for, or by their comments, it is quite evident things will get a LOT worse before it gets better!!! One only has to look at CNN; a pro-terrorist network that is very pro-Democrat and very anti-Republican, recently showed on TV one our soldiers getting killed in Iraq. This only plays into the hands of the terrorists, and it was ONLY a Republican, the Armed Services Committee Chairman that stated that CNN reporters should be pulled as embedded reporters, which, of course, I had thought a LONG time ago!!! CNN, Aljazeera, ABC, and most networks (except Fox News), the New Times, and MOST Democrats are desperately trying to undermine the fight on terrorism!!
So, vote Democrat or Libertarian or Green Party, and watch your FREEDOM and RIGHTS disappear, big time!!!!

seriously . . . what does this have to do with fear mongering??
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Old October 25th, 2006, 10:49 AM   #5
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I think the President would veto most anti-gun bills even if both the Senate and House would go Democrat, but there is an outside chance that the Dems would attach an anti-gun amendment to a very good bill of some sort, which would force the president to sign. That is the risk, even though it might be small.
I am concerned that we have only two more years to get any more pro-gun bills passed before the next election, and McCain (the front runner for the Republicans) is NOT pro-gun by any means, nor are there any pro-gun Democrats, so it will be a LONG time (probably after I am dead and gone) before any more pro-gun bills will be passed, and the odds are that a LOT more anti-gun bills will be passed if either there is a Republican or Democrat President, and especially if Congress goes Democrat.
I would invite people to LOOK at what Pelosi stands for. She was in a Gay Parade where the head guy of the parade thinks that Man-Boy relationships are just fine. Second, I would invite anyone to look at the gun laws in California and especially San Francisco where Pelosi is from, and tell me why I would vote for a Libertarian or Democrat. I really put this in a no brainer category!!!
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Don't throw Libertarians under the anti gun bus......

http://www.lp.org/issues/gun-rights.shtml
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Old October 25th, 2006, 10:49 AM   #6
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you think the dems will be able to take them [rights] away faster than Bush Jr. currently is?
What right has Dubya taken from you?
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Old October 25th, 2006, 11:06 AM   #7
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and don't say he is illegaly spying on you because unless you are making international calls to known or suspected terrorists it does not apply to you.

also don't say he took away your habeas corpus rights because once again unless you are a foreign enemy combatant and/or not a citizen of the US it doesnt apply to you.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 11:24 AM   #8
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fear mongering, you mean like gore flying around on his private jet talking about global warming and how we are all gonna die?
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Old October 25th, 2006, 04:45 PM   #9
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"Fear Mongering" = making it clear and known that the rights of U.S. citizens will not be extended to non-citizens.

This has always been a "pet peeve" of mine.

It shows how we take our rights for granted, assuming that they apply to everyone. I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I read a lot of rights and protections for citizens, but fewer for non-citizens, including illegal aliens (regardless of race/creed/color/origin), enermy combatants, the French, and those who support / shield / tolerate / enable / or provide "aid and comfort" top enemy combatants.

I see the "attacking of rights" as being more a "clarification of eligibility" for rights.

Go to Mexico and see if they extend U.S. rights to you, ensure police and government officials all speak english, etc...
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Is anyone else getting a little tired of Keith Olbermann?

I wish he would explain how it is that it's not at all Bill Clinton's fault that even though Al-Qaeda attacked a half a dozen or more times while he was in office he couldn't do anything to diminish thier ability enough to prevent them from pulling off the worst terrorist attack in world history, but it is somehow George Bush's fault that recovery workers failed to look under a manhole cover.


And I can't think of a single reason why i should care what Arianna Huffington thinks about anything.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 10:13 PM   #11
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and don't say he is illegaly spying on you because unless you are making international calls to known or suspected terrorists it does not apply to you.

also don't say he took away your habeas corpus rights because once again unless you are a foreign enemy combatant and/or not a citizen of the US it doesnt apply to you.

The problem with these laws is the ability to to close the doors to the public. Even if you have complete faith in this administration, what about future administrations?

BTW U.S. citizens can be deemed an enemy combatant and detained for questioning with no time limit. We just can't be tried in a military tribunal.

Do you believe the detention of Japanese-Americans during WWII was ok?
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And I can't think of a single reason why i should care what Arianna Huffington thinks about anything.
Amen, Bruce. I'm with you all the way.
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