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Old October 31st, 2006, 03:48 PM   #21
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I tend to lean more toward libertarian in thoughts, i'm still fairly conservative, but also some what liberal in certain areas, and i wouldn't say i stray very hard in one direction or the other because i view for the most part neither of the major political parties(rep and dem) are truely trying to work towards my needs.

Currently the publics thoughts are still fairly conservative (janet jacksons boob causing mass wackjob house wife hysteria, to games being too violent), sry but people you need to loosen up a bit, it's a boob, more than a majority of the worlds population has them, get over it, you used to suck on one for the life of you, well some of us still do

And the aspects of the country that are labeled "liberal" unfortunently are just poor, wanting hand outs and not technically that liberal, they just vote in that direction because persons that are of higher income ("big bad ") have more than them and they feel they are owed somthing for which they never really earned or deserve and that the canidates will cater and say they will raise taxes for the rich, and give to the poor.

Overall i like the libertarian majority stand point of, "you do what you want, i'll do what i want" , overall the general thoughts from the party is that people need to take more responsibility for ones self (which is one of the biggest things that we as a country lack), and not have to wait for the gov to fix the issues you may have but to deal with those yourself.

I'll be voting Devos (rep) for MI gov, i honeslty think granholm has done nothing, state with one of the highest rates of unemployment, 2 of the most dangerous cities in the country reside in our state, we have lost 1 congressional district due to lowering of our population.

I don't plan on voting libertarian for MI election for gov, i know and have heard nothing from the canidates of that party, and i feel that it would be a waste of a vote due to their lack of campaigning.
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:miff: how do you feel about the death penalty?
If a baby kills someone, then give it the electric chair.

God you are retarded.
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If a baby kills someone, then give it the electric chair.

God you are retarded.
So you just said it's okay to kill the baby if the baby killed someone which shows that you are all for killing in certain cases. So two wrongs do make a right up in the UP I see . . . no wonder you pass so many kids.

And GOD is not retartded . . if you're going to use that reference please try to use the a lower case g.
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Old October 31st, 2006, 04:35 PM   #24
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If a baby kills someone, then give it the electric chair.

God you are retarded.
Ok, I asked a legitimate question, that you apparently didn't want to answer, so you called me retarded, or God, or something. Anyway you probably shouldn't use that word anyway, the correct term is C.I. or Cognatively Impaired. You ARE an educator right?
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Ok, I asked a legitimate question, that you apparently didn't want to answer, so you called me retarded, or God, or something. Anyway you probably shouldn't use that word anyway, the correct term is C.I. or Cognatively Impaired. You ARE an educator right?
No, he's a shop teacher . . . .
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Wow...the twins have spoken. So what do you guys do? One says to the other, hey hurry up and make another ignorant post so I can get on the computer and completely agree with your ignorant post. Then we can go suck each other's dicks.

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No, he's a shop teacher . . . .
WTF does that have to do with anything? I have more education than you, that's for sure.

I just don't understand they way you guys think...it's ok to kill babies because because some people are too lazy to use a condom but it's not ok to kill a guy that grabs a woman out of the hall of a hotel, beats and rapes her over and over in the room, then takes a knife and cuts her neck all the way to her backbone. Then flees the state and tries to hide...but while hiding he kills a young teenage girl and only then is he caught.

Just so we're clear, you are for killing babies but letting the murders live and make us pay for them. Yea, THAT'S an educated person.
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Wow...the twins have spoken. So what do you guys do? One says to the other, hey hurry up and make another ignorant post so I can get on the computer and completely agree with your ignorant post. Then we can go suck each other's dicks.



WTF does that have to do with anything? I have more education than you, that's for sure.

I just don't understand they way you guys think...it's ok to kill babies because because some people are too lazy to use a condom but it's not ok to kill a guy that grabs a woman out of the hall of a hotel, beats and rapes her over and over in the room, then takes a knife and cuts her neck all the way to her backbone. Then flees the state and tries to hide...but while hiding he kills a young teenage girl and only then is he caught.

Just so we're clear, you are for killing babies but letting the murders live and make us pay for them. Yea, THAT'S an educated person.

I am pro-choice, which doesn't mean i'm for killing "babies".

I believe the death penalty is a valid option in cases that are beyond a shadow of a doubt and are of the violent nature.

I can also voice my opinion without getting personal about it. I suppose i could say something about "sucking dick" was it, but that's just childish and immature. You give shop teachers a bad name.
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Wow...the twins have spoken. So what do you guys do? One says to the other, hey hurry up and make another ignorant post so I can get on the computer and completely agree with your ignorant post. Then we can go suck each other's dicks.



WTF does that have to do with anything? I have more education than you, that's for sure.

I just don't understand they way you guys think...it's ok to kill babies because because some people are too lazy to use a condom but it's not ok to kill a guy that grabs a woman out of the hall of a hotel, beats and rapes her over and over in the room, then takes a knife and cuts her neck all the way to her backbone. Then flees the state and tries to hide...but while hiding he kills a young teenage girl and only then is he caught.

Just so we're clear, you are for killing babies but letting the murders live and make us pay for them. Yea, THAT'S an educated person.
I was pointing out that saying that you are an educator is giving you way to much credit. You are a teacher simply because you went to school and passed the test and that way you present yourself gives all teachers, especially shop teachers who are actually educators, a bad name. No wonder shop teachers jobs are in trouble with the fine example of yourself.

Nice suck each other's dick comment, once again showing your filthy mouth and showing what kind of character you possess.

From your above statement I see that you didn't quite understand the "thou shalt not kill" . . . . would you like for me to explain the other 9 commandments?
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No wonder shop teachers jobs are in trouble with the fine example of yourself.

From your above statement I see that you didn't quite understand the "thou shalt not kill" . . . . would you like for me to explain the other 9 commandments?
You need to check your info young one. My job is quite secure, as are most of the vocational programs. You don't know me, you don't know what kind of teacher I am. So please, for your own sake, quit . You are speaking of something you know nothing of. I am a dick to YOU, because you are a moron.

So now YOU are going to start quoting from the Bible? That's funny...actually it's just like I would figure for you. YOU just said "thou shalt not kill"...ok fine, i'll give you that one, but last time I checked, it didn't say "except babies".

Now, it depends on what version you read also, it may say "thou shalt not kill" but in another version it may say "thou shalt not murder".

Now, it is very clear that the Bible does say this:

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If a man strikes someone with an iron object so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. Or if anyone has a stone in his hand that could kill, and he strikes someone so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. Or if anyone has a wooden object in his hand that could kill, and he hits someone so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. The avenger of blood shall put the murderer to death; when he meets him, he shall put him to death. If anyone with malice aforethought shoves another or throws something at him intentionally so that he dies or if in hostility he hits him with his fist so that he dies, that person shall be put to death; he is a murderer. The avenger of blood shall put the murderer to death when he meets him.
So...I stand by my first statement, save the babies, kill the murderers.
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You need to check your info young one. My job is quite secure, as are most of the vocational programs. You don't know me, you don't know what kind of teacher I am. So please, for your own sake, quit . You are speaking of something you know nothing of. I am a dick to YOU, because you are a moron.

So now YOU are going to start quoting from the Bible? That's funny...actually it's just like I would figure for you. YOU just said "thou shalt not kill"...ok fine, i'll give you that one, but last time I checked, it didn't say "except babies".

Now, it depends on what version you read also, it may say "thou shalt not kill" but in another version it may say "thou shalt not murder".

Now, it is very clear that the Bible does say this:



So...I stand by my first statement, save the babies, kill the murderers.
Of course you would quote from the Old Testement(Numbers 35:16) in a time where Jesus's words supplement old teachings.

Vocational programs on on the decline but I guess you haven't noticed that. Even though I disagree with cutting those skills it is happening. If you haven't noticed subjects such as Math, English, Science and Social Studies are a little more important during a budget crisis then knowing how to bolt parts onto Uncle Timbo's Jeep
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Actually vocational programs that have a certification are on the rise. They are funded differently and are not as subject to the cuts that Granmole keeps making. But you have no idea how things are funded....and I don't give a rip that you mama is a part time teacher's aid somewhere. That doesn't mean you know anything of school funding.

and what? You feel that nothing in the old testament is valid? Because YOU disagree with it? I have seen no where in the new that says contrary to what I posted.

And yea...all they do is work on my Jeep. That's it, I have 75 kids work on my Jeep, all day, every day, all school year.:miff:

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Actually vocational programs that have a certification are on the rise. They are funded differently and are not as subject to the cuts that Granmole keeps making. But you have no idea how things are funded....and I don't give a rip that you mama is a part time teacher's aid somewhere. That doesn't mean you know anything of school funding.

and what? You feel that nothing in the old testament is valid? Because YOU disagree with it? I have seen no where in the new that says contrary to what I posted.

And yea...all they do is work on my Jeep. That's it, I have 75 kids work on my Jeep, all day, every day, all school year.:miff:
O yeah, the secret funding that doesn't come from tax dollars. . . yup, your right I have never heard of that. I guess I'll do some research to see when non tax dollars were funding public schools

You would think that it would be SOA and have something better then a D35 in the rear with 75 kids working on it.

I also won't apologize that I believe what Jesus says over the past but if the Old testement gives you a warm fuzzy feeling about killing people then more power too you. I wonder what Jesus would say on the matter, probably turn the other cheek and not be violent. I also remember all the threats that came my way from you so I would imagine you probably haven't even read the New Testement.
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O yeah, the secret funding that doesn't come from tax dollars. . . yup, your right I have never heard of that. I guess I'll do some research to see when non tax dollars were funding public schools
You think all areas come from the same fund? :tonka: Then you really don't know much. There is state money, then there is federal money and both are spit into several different funds that are given to different areas of education. Then there are specially adopted taxes that a community can vote on that add a few mils to add funding to things like career tech centers. It's too complicated...you wouldn't understand business.

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You would think that it would be SOA and have something better then a D35 in the rear with 75 kids working on it.
Yea, cuz SOA is the absolute best thing out there. You seem to know about the same amount about Jeeps as you do school funding.:tonka: YOU were the one that said that's all they did. I don't see you with anything better.

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I also won't apologize that I believe what Jesus says over the past but if the Old testement gives you a warm fuzzy feeling about killing people then more power too you. I wonder what Jesus would say on the matter, probably turn the other cheek and not be violent. I also remember all the threats that came my way from you so I would imagine you probably haven't even read the New Testement.
Ummmm, so you quote me "thou shall not kill" (Exodus 20:13) in one post, and then tell me that the Old Testament does not count anymore. Exodus is in the Old Testament.

Show me where Jesus said that it was OK to kill babies because you are too lazy or stupid to use condoms.
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You think all areas come from the same fund? :tonka: Then you really don't know much. There is state money, then there is federal money and both are spit into several different funds that are given to different areas of education. Then there are specially adopted taxes that a community can vote on that add a few mils to add funding to things like career tech centers. It's too complicated...you wouldn't understand business.



Yea, cuz SOA is the absolute best thing out there. You seem to know about the same amount about Jeeps as you do school funding.:tonka: YOU were the one that said that's all they did. I don't see you with anything better.



Ummmm, so you quote me "thou shall not kill" (Exodus 20:13) in one post, and then tell me that the Old Testament does not count anymore. Exodus is in the Old Testament.

Show me where Jesus said that it was OK to kill babies because you are too lazy or stupid to use condoms.
"thou shalt not kill" was supplmented with Jesus love of all so why would I show you where Jesus said it was okay to Kill Babies since you and I know it's both wrong becuase it is killing?? The difference is that you think capital punishment killing is okay where myself and Jesus do not agree with you.

I just kept the important parts. (look above ^) The rest was about how awesome COIL SPRINGS are and how awesome it is to not have a D35. Also stated that the economy isn't doing so hot and predictions are that it will not be doing well for the next 10 years so I hope the Fed Funds hold out and they don't have to cut Shop classes . . .

And that arguing with you on the internet is stupid.

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You keep typing, you just show how stupid you are. I'm not going to get into a pissing match about who's Jeep is better. Bring your shit to Canada and wheel it.

My program actually has the highest rate of students that go on to college in my center. Also has the highest rate of local jobs for those that do not go on to college. Also has the highest rate of students that go off to college that return to work (and spend money and have more kids to keep the school open) in the area. My program is also certified by the state, by NATEF (ASE for schools) and is articulated to 14 colleges and universities.

Oh, I am very comfortable in my position and my program. In fact, I just OK'ed a quote to install 3 new hoists that have been donated to my program because of the work I do in the community with our kids.

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Like we haven't welded or fabbed anything on it? You don't know shit frat boy. You haven't even ever seen my Jeep in person.

Now, get off that shit and stay on topic....what was it....oh yea! KILL THE BABIES!
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Dang, you think it would be a little nicer then...
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I know it...but then again, I don't have much money so all they do is take parts off and then put them back on.
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I think Muddy Paws & CMU should fukc already. The foreplay is beginning to bore people
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Wow you guys should have a boxing match and charge admission, I bet a lot of people on this board would pay to see that.

Anyway back to the nature at hand....

Here's the L.P.'s stand on abortion, you don't have to agree or diagree with it but I think it's a reasonable stand on a sensitive and personal issue.

Sorry can't find anything on capital punishment yet stay tuned.

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The Issue: The tragedies caused by unplanned, unwanted pregnancies are aggravated and sometimes created by government policies of censorship, restriction, regulation and prohibition.
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on both sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

The Principle: Individual rights should not be denied nor abridged on the basis of sex, age, dependency, or location. Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for other people's abortions, nor should any government or individual force a woman to have an abortion. It is the right and obligation of the pregnant woman regardless of age, not the state, to decide the desirability or appropriateness of prenatal testing, Caesarean births, fetal surgery, voluntary surrogacy arrangements and/or home births.

Solutions: We oppose government actions that either compel or prohibit abortion, sterilization or any other form of birth control. Specifically we condemn the practice of forced sterilization of welfare recipients, or of mentally retarded or "genetically defective" individual. We support the voluntary exchange of goods, services or information regarding human sexuality, reproduction, birth control or related medical or biological technologies. We oppose government laws and policies that restrict the opportunity to choose alternatives to abortion.


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That's just a fancy way to say pro-choice.
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