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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:33 AM   #1
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Default Let's be realistic for the next 4 years.

Health care:
Most of us do not make over 250k
Those that make at and below the welfare maximum are rocking( )
The new health plan doesn't take effect till 2014
Yeah if you work for a small business your employer will likely take the tax fine verses front health care provider for you. What will your monthly health care premium be? I don't know......
Will the new health care system go bankrupt? Probably......

Guns....oops....Assault weapons:
If you like weapons you will do what you can to help fight these bullshit laws.
If the UN/government succeed, life as we know it will carry on.....as needed.

Taxes:
Been getting fucked and it will continue........
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:37 AM   #2
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:45 AM   #3
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Logic, high on the endangered species list.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:48 AM   #4
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Health care:
Most of us do not make over 250k
Those that make at and below the welfare maximum are rocking( )
The new health plan doesn't take effect till 2014
Yeah if you work for a small business your employer will likely take the tax fine verses front health care provider for you. What will your monthly health care premium be? I don't know......
Will the new health care system go bankrupt? Probably......

Guns....oops....Assault weapons:
If you like weapons you will do what you can to help fight these bullshit laws.
If the UN/government succeed, life as we know it will carry on.....as needed.

Taxes:
Been getting fucked and it will continue........

Good for the economy.
See that gun sales and stocks are already up in anticipation of things to come.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:59 AM   #5
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Parts of the health care have already been implemented for the last year or so. I know for sure the dependent coverage until the age of 25 or 26 is in effect.
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/newsroom/fsd...tcoverage.html
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:07 PM   #6
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Parts of the health care have already been implemented for the last year or so. I know for sure the dependent coverage until the age of 25 or 26 is in effect.
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/newsroom/fsd...tcoverage.html
Yep.....but I am not going to inform my kids of this!!
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #7
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How about the national debt issue?
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #8
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Parts of the health care have already been implemented for the last year or so. I know for sure the dependent coverage until the age of 25 or 26 is in effect.
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/newsroom/fsd...tcoverage.html
Yes it is.
My son got a new job that does not offer anyone under 26 health insurance since they can remain on their parent's plan.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:12 PM   #9
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How about the national debt issue?
Ding Ding Ding . . . biggest issue of all.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:13 PM   #10
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How about the national debt issue?
Has it ever shrank?
When China wants their money I'm sure the threat of war will light a fire under uncle sams ass.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:13 PM   #11
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My health care premium doubled and my insurance company told me it was because of the projected cost of Obamacare.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:15 PM   #12
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Ding Ding Ding . . . biggest issue of all.
Your resolve? I see none! We will never be deby free to countries like China if we keep borrowing!!
Which brings me to my next question.....why the fukc are we still borrowing?!
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #13
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My health care premium doubled and my insurance company told me it was because of the projected cost of Obamacare.
I would drop your carrier like a used whore.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #14
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My health care premium doubled and my insurance company told me it was because of the projected cost of Obamacare.
I'm exempt from Obama care, my premiums went up 20%. last year.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #15
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Yes it is.
My son got a new job that does not offer anyone under 26 health insurance since they can remain on their parent's plan.
Hmmmmm.......wonder if dissolution of guardianship would halt that aspect
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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:08 PM   #16
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Your resolve? I see none! We will never be deby free to countries like China if we keep borrowing!!
Which brings me to my next question.....why the fukc are we still borrowing?!
It's pretty simple actually.

You earn X.
You spend Y.
X-Y>=0

Both X and Y are variables that this country can control. Hard decisions need to be made to control each one.

The problem is everyone wants to take and no one wants to give. Tax the rich! Abandon the poor! Fuck China! Borrow more! Print more money!

I for one wouldn't be horribly opposed to paying more if there was an honest to God, line in the sand, carved in stone, unalterable plan to eliminate the debt in however many years. The thing that pisses me off is they always want more and then they always want to spend more on top of that. Jesus...our country lives like the idiots that use the payday loan places.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:16 PM   #17
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Why the fukc are we still borrowing?!
Because if we [the tax payers] actually had to pay the rate to fully fund the government there would be riots, and because it would be political suicide for those career politicians. The same could be said for making any real cuts in the budget.

So we'll continue to punish success and pass the burden onto future generations.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 02:13 PM   #18
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Well, some of us will have a household income over $250,000 a year very shorty. I can't wait for the ass rape on taxes, and beginning to pay back $300,000 worth of medical school loans.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 02:23 PM   #19
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My health care premium doubled and my insurance company told me it was because of the projected cost of Obamacare.
I just found yesterday from our HR director that our portion of the health care premium for a 804 PPO is going up 17% due to obamacare.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 02:34 PM   #20
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Well, some of us will have a household income over $250,000 a year very shorty. I can't wait for the ass rape on taxes, and beginning to pay back $300,000 worth of medical school loans.
You better just sit at home and mind the farm to keep that combine income below 250 ;)
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