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Old November 5th, 2012, 03:54 PM   #1
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Default Hey engineers, help please.

I need some freaking help cause I seem to have pitting issues no matter how I figure this.

Not sure where this should be placed so I am placing it in general.

Totally within torque, temperature, and bearing limits giving a long lasting (noisy) drive train.


Here are the numbers I am looking at, the issue is in red.









Any help is greatly appreciated. Any flaming is totally understandable given my regrettable previous threads.

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Old November 5th, 2012, 04:07 PM   #2
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Reduce Sh I know it sounds simple and I could be wrong but the teeth seem to have a protruding radius that's gonna cause more wear because it looks as though the teeth will actually lock together. Like I said I could be wrong. I've only used inventor for gears a couple times.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 04:37 PM   #4
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This guy can help.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #7
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Nobody can help this guy. He is an eternal retard with dumb, over complicated ideas that will never actually happen.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 05:33 PM   #8
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Nobody can help this guy. He is an eternal retard with dumb, over complicated ideas that will never actually happen.
I disagree. This post actually has a strong amount of common sense to it. He has put some real thought and time into doing something completely different from the rest of us.
There is only one way to determine if it will work.
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There are simple gear formulas for everything you are asking.
Are you planning to purchase the gears or make them?
Buy them and it's simple.
Try to make them and .......... well............
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I'm unable to respond from the data provided.

Of course, that's because I'm a Radiological Engineer and don't know shit about gears and metallurgy.

You're welcome.
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I have a 7th edition Machinists Handbook. Circa 1940. It has your answers.

$1.00 (US) per page = $1,366.00 and I think it's fair price. I will throw in the owners notes on the extra pages for free.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 05:49 AM   #13
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There are simple gear formulas for everything you are asking.
Are you planning to purchase the gears or make them?
Buy them and it's simple.
Try to make them and .......... well............
I should be able to find the ratios easily enough it is a manner of fixing the little things before they become big things.
I planned on buying a set from scs but the sets available are simply to small. I am talking with them about getting a larger set made along with the shafts.

Just because there out there does not mean they will mesh properly though. Lots more about it then simple tooth count and angle.

But, yea I am considering handing this thing off to someone who knows what they are doing and has the proper equipment to build the entire thing right at a significant increase in cost. Have cash need case kind of deal.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 02:18 PM   #14
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Old November 6th, 2012, 02:22 PM   #15
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I'm a quality engineer. Looks like it'll be a piece of shit.

You're also welcome.
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Looks like it'll be a piece of shit.
Yep, I agree.

Called around expecting to hear around 7k considering the design, machine, tooling, and assembly required from a highly respected company. I am hearing lower then that so handing this off to the guys who do this stuff professionally.
They are chucking my afterbirth of a design and keeping the layout with driving for hours on the highway before heavy right foot meets stupid tough being the underlying basis of the design.

This was the last thing I did not have figured out fully. Taken as many weak links out as possible on this. Now I can shut up with this crazy over thinking bs. Still have about 7k in parts to get but it is all basic stuff that I have done before with other more mild builds.

I know you rag on me about the over thinking stuff. But I have a rebuilt sm465 mated to a Dana 20 ps drop, twin stick, tara low gears, with warn overdrive completely built by Herm collecting dust because I did not look further into the overdrive assembly just assuming it was disengaged until you wanted overdrive. That was like a 4k mistake which I will end up stuffing in something later on not caring when the od blows up.
It was after that I started looking for something that could be bullet proof(actually take a side impact) and still give od (double od actually) which ended up stopping the cj and starting this MR engine buggy at 3 times the cost of the cj build.

Live and learn and junk.

Thanks for all the help.
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Yep, I agree.

Called around expecting to hear around 7k considering the design, machine, tooling, and assembly required from a highly respected company. I am hearing lower then that so handing this off to the guys who do this stuff professionally.
They are chucking my afterbirth of a design and keeping the layout with driving for hours on the highway before heavy right foot meets stupid tough being the underlying basis of the design.

This was the last thing I did not have figured out fully. Taken as many weak links out as possible on this. Now I can shut up with this crazy over thinking bs. Still have about 7k in parts to get but it is all basic stuff that I have done before with other more mild builds.

I know you rag on me about the over thinking stuff. But I have a rebuilt sm465 mated to a Dana 20 ps drop, twin stick, tara low gears, with warn overdrive completely built by Herm collecting dust because I did not look further into the overdrive assembly just assuming it was disengaged until you wanted overdrive. That was like a 4k mistake which I will end up stuffing in something later on not caring when the od blows up.
It was after that I started looking for something that could be bullet proof(actually take a side impact) and still give od (double od actually) which ended up stopping the cj and starting this MR engine buggy at 3 times the cost of the cj build.

Live and learn and junk.

Thanks for all the help.

Why would you drive a buggy on the highway for hours?
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I should be able to find the ratios easily enough it is a manner of fixing the little things before they become big things.
I planned on buying a set from scs but the sets available are simply to small. I am talking with them about getting a larger set made along with the shafts.

Just because there out there does not mean they will mesh properly though. Lots more about it then simple tooth count and angle.

But, yea I am considering handing this thing off to someone who knows what they are doing and has the proper equipment to build the entire thing right at a significant increase in cost. Have cash need case kind of deal.
I'm fully aware of that. I've been doing special machine gearboxes for years. But the center distances are the center distances.
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So you expected to spend about seven thousand on this fucking overdrive? What the fukc ! How would you ever recoupe that loss? Certainly not in fuel savings. So you not only have to make everything as difficult as possible, you wanna spend a shit ton of money to do it? You may actually be retarded.
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