Used vehicles that have been in accidents - Page 2 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > The Pub
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

The Pub A friendly forum where everybody is nice, and will answer any questions you have about life.

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old November 1st, 2012, 09:52 AM   #21
BlooMule
Jet powered
 
BlooMule's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-08-05
Location: a mile from the shithole
Posts: 26,496
iTrader: (12)
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8PTBUCK View Post
Back in high school, my sex ed teacher gave a great lesson on how child birth really tears up the snatch... therefore she won't have kids Lol If I can remember correctly, she said "I won't have kids. Have you guys ever seen what a vagina looks like after birth?"
Did she then show you what a perfect, untouched vag looks like?
__________________
-rw-rw-rw
BlooMule is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old November 1st, 2012, 09:57 AM   #22
TJJEEP
Senior Member
 
TJJEEP's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-08-05
Location: Orchard Lake
Posts: 2,970
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to TJJEEP Send a message via MSN to TJJEEP
Default

To me it would matter what has been replaced. From my experience a car with extensive front end damage is never the same.

resale will be harder since less people would be in the market for a vehicle that had extensive damage.
TJJEEP is online now   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 10:03 AM   #23
8PTBUCK
The local hipster, yo!
 
8PTBUCK's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-02-09
Location: Waterford/Gladwin, MI
Posts: 5,838
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlooMule View Post
Did she then show you what a perfect, untouched vag looks like?
No but she should have for comparison, even though she didn't show us a tore up vag.
8PTBUCK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 10:35 AM   #24
Chiefwoohaw
Pokerob is my B*tch!
 
Chiefwoohaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 11,509
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Ion . . .really??
Chiefwoohaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 11:04 AM   #25
bdd1469
bdd
 
bdd1469's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-12-10
Location: alto mi
Posts: 2,097
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Yahoo to bdd1469
Default

When I was in autobody we bought,repaired,and sold hundreds,and hundreds of totaled cars.If the repairs are done correctly and you buy the car for several thousand less then one with no damage I see no problem.
As someone mention,corrosion protection suffers from any accident or work.I dont care how good your shop,tools,materials are,they are not as good as the assembly line for rust protection.

Check the car over,have a mech check it if you are not.Be prepared for a squeek or a loose screw or two to surface here and there.You can do a hell of a job repairing something but a car is only new once.

Research the shop who fixed it and try to talk to people who have bought cars from them before.See if the owner will allow a extended test drive,like over a weekend.This way you can take your time looking for little things that may not be 100%.

I would say about 60% of our cars were sold before they were fixed completly,mostly to freinds,family,and repeat customers.If the repairs are done correctly and the price is right you should have no problem reselling the car in the future.
bdd1469 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 11:10 AM   #26
s10crazy
FullThrottlePhotography.n
 
Join Date: 08-01-06
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
Posts: 53
iTrader: (2)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default clean title doesnt mean always clean

there are a few differant types of titles and most of us recognize the green title as a clean title. This was the case with a vehicle I recently had which my girlfriends father bought for her. We knew the car came from katrina and had flood damage and he felt he got a good deal when buying it, which I dont disagree.

getting to my point......we had a green michigan title and i assumed the damage just wasn't bad enough for it to be given a salvage title. when going to trade the car in at our local dealership last year the appraisal guy brought to our attention some interesting facts that were displayed on the carfax sheet. The car WAS issued a salvage title. It was sold at auction and transported to canada where somehow it was re-titled twice and brought back into the USA with a clean title and sold to us. the mileage was tampered with. It was all a big scam and these guys that do this all the time know how to work the system.

All I can say is take your time and look it over with a fine toothed comb. don't allow yourself to be rushed by the seller
s10crazy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 11:41 AM   #27
BlooMule
Jet powered
 
BlooMule's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-08-05
Location: a mile from the shithole
Posts: 26,496
iTrader: (12)
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Default

IMO, it would have to be a screamin deal, and I would have to be planning on driving it til the wheels fell off.
__________________
-rw-rw-rw
BlooMule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 12:02 PM   #28
14muddn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: 02-10-08
Location: Wixom/MI
Posts: 1,812
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I would think it comes down to how long you plan to own the car. Most of us on here have a good idea of what to look for when inspecting a car ie how well repairs were made, how the car drives, problems that need attention, and overall how well it was maintained. If I were purchasing a car or truck I planned to own the title would not matter as much if it was a good deal, I planned to own it for a long time, and the other concerns checked out okay I would probably buy it.

In the dozen or so cars I have sold besides rust it is very hard to sell high miles and a salvage/ rebuilt title. Even when priced way below what the going prices are.
14muddn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 02:49 PM   #29
Chiefwoohaw
Pokerob is my B*tch!
 
Chiefwoohaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 11,509
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

People are really missing the point . . . he's looking at an ION which should automatically cause a response of back away from the vehicle.
Chiefwoohaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 03:16 PM   #30
montecarlo33
The Violator
 
montecarlo33's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-23-07
Location: Otsego County 49735
Posts: 4,615
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Default

I too have bought a "clean" titled vehicle and i rushed into buying it while not looking at the important details. It was a 2002 gmc jimmy highrider zr2 i was told but when I went to the bank the VIN came up as a 2wd. Bank wanted local dealership to look it over, which I did, and they gave me a letter stating it was a 4x4 and the VIN was incorrect, so I took it as that, everything supposedly checked out on their end so I bought it. Now they made these in a GMC but what I had was a 2wd body which was placed on a chevy blazer zr2 frame and the miles stayed with the body apparently. What I thought was low mileage, wasnt at all. Ended up trading it in but it basicly fell apart on me. Also had a buddy who bought a car down while he was in flordia. It was a steal of a deal it was a osmobile convertable and low miles and clean title. Got it back home a few months later and I was looking at it and it was 2 seperate cars welded together and it wasnt a total hillbilly hack job, lets just say it was as nice as 2 cars put together could be. no bullshit. He ended up trading it in at a dealership. Scary cars out there, I wont buy these days without a carfax and if its been wrecked i want to know EXACTLY how it was fixed and that it was done correctly.
montecarlo33 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 03:20 PM   #31
8PTBUCK
The local hipster, yo!
 
8PTBUCK's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-02-09
Location: Waterford/Gladwin, MI
Posts: 5,838
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Default

Two cars welded together?!? That IS some real hillbilly stuff right there! Lmao They must have done it well enough that you wouldn't look twice at it unless you were really checking it out eh
8PTBUCK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 03:33 PM   #32
montecarlo33
The Violator
 
montecarlo33's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-23-07
Location: Otsego County 49735
Posts: 4,615
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8PTBUCK View Post
Two cars welded together?!? That IS some real hillbilly stuff right there! Lmao They must have done it well enough that you wouldn't look twice at it unless you were really checking it out eh
yes, never saw it before I wasnt there when he bought it and my buddy did get a D+ in auto shop in high school When he showed me a few months later, I looked underneath and had to do a double take, then we started pulling panels off all over the car and you could see everything they did It was under the rear seat where the seem was so we assumed it took a hard hit to the rear and someone put another rear of a car on that one. I agree anytime you weld 2 cars together its some booty fab, hillbilly shit that should NOT be on the road, however this one was executed so well that it was not even noticeable to the normal look over.
montecarlo33 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 04:52 PM   #33
3stratman
Let's Go Red Wings!
 
3stratman's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-27-08
Location: Michigan
Posts: 717
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

On a somewhat related subject, working at Home Depot and seeing what people do to their cars hauling stuff in them makes me believe that cars should be bought new. Used pickups I can see because you expect them to have been used as work vehicles. But I've seen people do some amazing stuff to their cars using them as work vehicles. Cinder blocks filling the passenger compartment of Mercedes Benz sedans. Pressure treated deck lumber in the family conversion van so the rear doors won't close. Ceramic tile cases and 50lb bags of Thinset in a Chevy Cavalier till the ass end is nearly dragging the ground. No matter how well these people might clean up their vehicles before they try to sell them, they're only hiding the fact that they were beaten to hell being used as work vehicles.
3stratman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 06:27 PM   #34
Whit11b
Groovy
 
Whit11b's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-15-09
Location: Fenton, Mi
Posts: 133
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to Whit11b
Default

The two cars being welded together is nothing new. I've seen several unibody cars cut in half at the B-post and sectioned together. It is not really difficult, like replacing the front clip on a conventional frame car, just time consuming. Mostly done at schools as class projects because it isn't really practical to buy two junk cars and Frankenstein them together. I saw an early 90's Cavalier rebuilt that way and re-totaled a few months later. Struck in the driver's side rear door in an intersection and it held up as well as any clean titled vehicle. I'll have to dig through some photos and see if I can find some pics.

On buying a rebuilt title car, if you don't think you have the expertise to inspect it yourself have a third party repair shop look it over. It's a mixed bag, just do your homework before hand and you shouldn't have any surprises.
Whit11b is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 07:06 PM   #35
mikesova
My 4x4 is a Subaru.
 
mikesova's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Gladwin, MI
Posts: 7,874
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to mikesova
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefwoohaw View Post
People are really missing the point . . . he's looking at an ION which should automatically cause a response of back away from the vehicle.
What's wrong with an Ion?
mikesova is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 07:28 PM   #36
bdd1469
bdd
 
bdd1469's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-12-10
Location: alto mi
Posts: 2,097
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Yahoo to bdd1469
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8PTBUCK View Post
Two cars welded together?!? That IS some real hillbilly stuff right there! Lmao They must have done it well enough that you wouldn't look twice at it unless you were really checking it out eh
Its called clipping a car.You replace the "rear clip" or "front clip" just as you would replace a rusty/smashed qt panel or boxside.If done properly,thats how you do it.You cut it where ever it makes the most sense to not hurt the strength of the car and is the easiest to weld it back together and finish.I have done this hundreds of times.
bdd1469 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 07:37 PM   #37
bdd1469
bdd
 
bdd1469's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-12-10
Location: alto mi
Posts: 2,097
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Yahoo to bdd1469
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by montecarlo33 View Post
yes, never saw it before I wasnt there when he bought it and my buddy did get a D+ in auto shop in high school When he showed me a few months later, I looked underneath and had to do a double take, then we started pulling panels off all over the car and you could see everything they did It was under the rear seat where the seem was so we assumed it took a hard hit to the rear and someone put another rear of a car on that one. I agree anytime you weld 2 cars together its some booty fab, hillbilly shit that should NOT be on the road, however this one was executed so well that it was not even noticeable to the normal look over.
You are wrong. What happeneds when half of your brand new truck gets wasted? The insurence pays to weld a bunch of little piecies back on you truck,straighten the frame and repaint it.If it's more then a few yrs old it gets junk yard parts.Would you rather they drill every spot weld and invite rust into hundreds of welds or cut it out in one easy to replace piece? My point is there is nothing wrong with welding two cars together,it is done in body shops every day.The quality of the work is what counts.
bdd1469 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 07:48 PM   #38
junkyardjon
Senior Member
 
Join Date: 06-18-11
Location: marine city, MI
Posts: 161
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesova View Post
Would you buy used car that's been in an accident?

I've been looking at a lot of used cars online lately and a couple I've been interested in, have been in accidents. One is a Saturn Ion owned by a guy who buys cars from the insurance company, fixes them up, and re-sells them. It has a clean title, though. I talked to him on the phone, the drivers side airbag blew and was replaced, the front bumper was replaced, radiator replaced, etc.

For the insurance company to have them to sell to this guy, doesn't that mean a car has been totaled?


Am I paranoid, or is this a bad idea?
was he up front about the damage? have it looked over if your worried about it. i do this kind of work for a living so it's no big deal too me. the shady shops and people get shut down fast by the state. the shop i work for has been in business for 26 years with alot of repeat customers, so they must be something right. if i was closer, i'd check it over for you.
junkyardjon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 07:58 PM   #39
xjagain
Newbie
 
Join Date: 10-22-12
Location: Midland, Michigan
Posts: 17
iTrader: (0)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I personally know 4 guys here in midland county that rebuild totals from insurance auctions, probably more if I really thought about it. Working in the auto parts I had the opportunity to talk to a few of them about how this actually works. In the state of MI it is actually possible to get an salvage title cleared and a green title reissued, upon inspection by a state approved official. Not, going to say it's the best system, but it is possible. On the other hand technically if you replace,modify, or in any means alter even a fender on your vehicle the state requires an "inspection".
xjagain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 1st, 2012, 08:29 PM   #40
montecarlo33
The Violator
 
montecarlo33's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-23-07
Location: Otsego County 49735
Posts: 4,615
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Default

All i can say is that if i ever bought a Frankenstein like 2 of anything welded together the owner better list it or at least come right out and say it openly the first time we talked or i would walk away from the sale after inspection. I bought a hack job once because i rushed though the sale. Take your time and do your homework
montecarlo33 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > General 4x4 Stuff > The Pub

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 2.01589 seconds with 80 queries