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Old October 24th, 2012, 06:42 AM   #1
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Time for a change…..

NOT an Obama change and NOT a Romney change but a REAL change. The and no longer serve the American people. As long as they believe that one or the other will get elected every 4 to 8 years they will serve only their own interests. They seem to have forgotten that they are servants of the people. The politicians use us to get elected then do the minimum to keep the people content.

They need to be taught that they are not the only choices. They need to understand that when the people are displeased enough they will find themselves out of a job. The only way to drive this point home is to elect neither a republican nor a democrat. When they are left there on November 7 with their mouths hanging open wondering how neither of them got elected maybe they will have learned that it is the American people who hold the power in this country and not them.

To do this, we, the people of the United States of America must change the way we think and vote. We have to vote against the grain. We can’t vote for a candidate because we think he/she has a chance of winning. We all like to be associated with the “winner.” We have to change that mentality. If we don’t then we will forever be the servants of the elected officials and not the other way around. We have to vote in a way that will force a change. We need to stand up and stop being puppets to the politicians.

My thought and plan is to vote for people other than the republican or democrat candidates. There are other candidates out there. I’m not limiting my plan to the presidential election. I will apply it to all of the elected positions up for a vote. If there is only a choice between a republican or democrat then I will not vote for the incumbent.

Personally, green is my favorite color so I am voting for the Green party when I can. That’s my choice. Each of you needs to make your own decisions.

There is still time to change the course of the election. If we all do this then we can make a difference.


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Old October 24th, 2012, 07:34 AM   #2
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Any vote not for Romney is a vote for Obama. Simple as that.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 07:46 AM   #3
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Any vote not for Romney is a vote for Obama. Simple as that.
That train of thought is what traps this country in a two party system. It is also not true. My political rambling is meant not to pull votes from just Romney but Obama as well. They are both lackluster candidates who will truly do nothing positive for this country. It's like choosing between Meijer brand green beans and Spartan brand green beans. The label is different but in the end they are just green beans. Simple as that.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 07:50 AM   #4
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Any vote not for Romney is a vote for Obama. Simple as that.
Agreed

Vote for Romney if you value your freedom.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 07:58 AM   #5
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Vote for Romney if you value your freedom.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 08:01 AM   #7
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I agree...you did drink the Kool Aid.

I'll take a single malt scotch myself.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 08:21 AM   #8
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That train of thought is what traps this country in a two party system. It is also not true. My political rambling is meant not to pull votes from just Romney but Obama as well. They are both lackluster candidates who will truly do nothing positive for this country. It's like choosing between Meijer brand green beans and Spartan brand green beans. The label is different but in the end they are just green beans. Simple as that.
While I would love to see a 3 party system, or some other alternative to mainstream politics, this election is not the time for it. The dems typically work off of emotion versus logic. So, when you propose what may be a logical option, the only ones who may consider it are those that are logical........... typically rep's. So, you get them to sway away from voting for Romney while the dems don't sway away from Obama and bang....... Obama wins.

Right now we need to get Romney in office to get the financial crisis resolved.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 08:22 AM   #9
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That train of thought is what traps this country in a two party system. It is also not true. My political rambling is meant not to pull votes from just Romney but Obama as well. They are both lackluster candidates who will truly do nothing positive for this country. It's like choosing between Meijer brand green beans and Spartan brand green beans. The label is different but in the end they are just green beans. Simple as that.

NOPE!

Whiterhino, many others and myself are just old enough to know through expierience, that there are too many base Republicans, and base Democrats to get a third party canidate elected.

We learned from the Ross Perot debacle in 1992 and ended up with Clinton.

It would take a major attack on our soverneignty just prior to an election to completely change the mind set of said bases in order to get that third party canidate elected.
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That train of thought is what traps this country in a two party system. It is also not true. My political rambling is meant not to pull votes from just Romney but Obama as well. They are both lackluster candidates who will truly do nothing positive for this country. It's like choosing between Meijer brand green beans and Spartan brand green beans. The label is different but in the end they are just green beans. Simple as that.
That would be true . . . but it isn't until a majority of the nation agrees with a 3rd party. At that time you will not be throwing your vote away like you currently plan on doing.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 08:36 AM   #11
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you can't fucking start such a "voter revolution" at the national level. both the right, and the left count on disenfranchised voters, and know full well that for the most part a vote outside of the two party caucus based political circus is akin to not voting.

If you want to change the system legally, and systematically, it has to be built up from town/home rule. Eventually solidifying as "non-partisan" choices taking strong hold in State politics, then progressing to regional/multi-state politics before you can seriously send a message to the national stage.

Both candidates do of course have their faults, so would a 3rd and 4th.

How in the fukc could they not have flaws when to represent "the people" you have to figure out what the best interests are of 300+ million people, representing some 3 dozen religions and non-religions, from climates ranging from desert to swamp, elevations from mountains to below sea level, from population centers having thousands of people per sq mile to less than 1, coming from demographics as poor as ethiopia's ghetto and as wealthy as dubai.

oh, and in all of that, in order to get elected you HAVE to spread your name which costs hundreds of millions, or in obama's case a billion dollar campaign - thereby forcing you to pander to concentrated pools of donors.

and you wonder why they don't represent "you and me"
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In Canada we have a 3 party system but it is mainly between two. there is also a 4th that wants Qubec to separate from Canada (go figure how can that be,) if they win we (in the rest of Canada) will have No gov. the third party won alot of Canadas popular vote,It realld shook things up the Liberals lost official party status, they havent had a decent leader in 10 years I think. so to summerize 3rd party can be good but it wasts the countrys time in getting straightend out because their leader didnt have any real experience
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so to summerize 3rd party can be good but it wasts the countrys time in getting straightend out because their leader didnt have any real experience
Was his name Obama?
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Old October 24th, 2012, 09:54 AM   #14
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Let's forget about the chances of my suggestion working for a moment.

Just imagine the look on Obama and Romney's faces when they learned that Jill Stein (green party) won the presidential election.

Or the look on Jill Stein's face (Holy crap I won! WTF am I going to do now!)
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You actually make our point. There are already more than 2 parties but most of them are so whacko that no one cares.
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They are all wackos, and included. Some are just better funded, more popular and more entrenched than others.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 10:03 AM   #17
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Any vote not for Romney is a vote for Obama. Simple as that.
True dat !!!
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Old October 24th, 2012, 10:24 AM   #18
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oh, and in all of that, in order to get elected you HAVE to spread your name which costs hundreds of millions, or in obama's case a billion dollar campaign - thereby forcing you to pander to concentrated pools of donors.
Ah, there we come to the true problem behind the politicians. They are all bought. Not just the presidential candidates but all of them. Senators and congressmen. They get elected and they want to get re-elected so they have to behave the way their financial backers want. Pathetic. And they say that bribery of a public official is illegal. What a joke.

*Sigh* I shouldn't let myself get so riled up. I'm an idealist. The world is never going to live up to my expectations.
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Trust me, if Romney wins and can't fix the ecenomy- there will be a viable third party. But you won't like it, comrade.
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Trust me, if Romney wins and can't fix the ecenomy- there will be a viable third party. But you won't like it, comrade.
Care to clarify your statement? Are you suggesting that the viable 3rd party will be communist/socialist or that I am communist/socialist?
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