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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:23 PM   #41
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Bdd care to back that up with proof? I hear this crap everyday. I have been through lots of stihl training and know the products very well. People still think they can tell me the "truth" about stihl. As far as a husky not being a reliable saw, I would guess most complaints are fuel related just like with stihls. They are both a very good saw and I tell that to any customer I am trying to sell to. Yet we still did almost 500 handhelds last year. It's about the dealer service and knowing the product. They both have a great offering. Stihl does have the top handle market by its balls though!
The proof I have is a few huskies with helicoils installed in the head because the muffler kept coming loose,and pulled the threads.I dont know the model number and I did not fix them.I was just there when my lumberjack freind and small engine shop freind were talking about saws.My good freinds cut and sell hudreds of cords a year. If you want more proof you will have to come to them about the saws they use.I love husky stuff,thats why it pains me to hear about the problems they have had.

I would agree that bad gas is the number one problem with any chain saw,but not when they are used daily.I have replaced at least a hundred burnt pistons because of bad gas,never had a muffler come loose or a recoil blow up because of it..I dont give a shit what training video you watched,sthil still builds a good saw.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:27 PM   #42
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LOL, the Jonsered's share the same plastics as the huskys, i think husky's and stihl are both are good saws, i've always like the Husqvarna for the seemingly higher rpm, which feels like more power in the hands.
Lol,not the husky I looked at at tsc

The v6 mustang and the cobrarouschgtshelby what ever share the same sheat metal,but they are all different.With ford it is mostly stickers and badges,I dont know about saws.Husky and johnsered used to be built in the same building,doesnt make them the same.

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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:34 PM   #43
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We have 3 Stihl's and they have all been great. If they ever die we will replace them with a Stihl
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:45 PM   #44
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That is the poulan problem.. Every one I ever had was hard ass hell to get started and would hard start after running.
Stihls decompression button is amazing. And mandatory on the bigger saws
You can improve the starting a bunch by tweaking the low speed air screw.The problem is the screw needs a special driver or you need to cut a slit in it and use a normal screw driver.
They are set and forget at the factory and the threads are not machined very well so be carefull. Every poulan I see is the same.They start ok cold and wont start after warm or hot,even when new.
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Still using a Sthil that my dad bought back in the 70's. Farm Boss 028 and always starts by the 3rd or 4th pull.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:49 PM   #46
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We put a helicoil in a stihl almost monthly. Some old saws and some new. Main cause would be little to no maintenance on the saw. The proof I am asking for is that a husky is a re-labeled poulin. My training video didn't cover that.
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My dad did a ton of reading up on saws a few years back and he went with a Husqvarna.
Only thing he hated about it was the damn "safety" chain on it. He got a pro-grade Canadian one and i cuts much better and faster.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 10:19 PM   #48
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You can improve the starting a bunch by tweaking the low speed air screw.The problem is the screw needs a special driver or you need to cut a slit in it and use a normal screw driver.
They are set and forget at the factory and the threads are not machined very well so be carefull. Every poulan I see is the same.They start ok cold and wont start after warm or hot,even when new.
I improved it by junking it and buying a user friendly Stihl.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 10:21 PM   #49
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 10:25 PM   #50
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We put a helicoil in a stihl almost monthly. Some old saws and some new. Main cause would be little to no maintenance on the saw. The proof I am asking for is that a husky is a re-labeled poulin. My training video didn't cover that.
I have no proof of the lower end huskies being made by poulan,just HEARD it. Im a fool for repeating it I guess.
I have never put a helicoil in a stihl,but I dont work on many saws. My exsperience with two strokes is mostly snowmobiles and dirt bikes.
I think the problem they had with the mufflers coming loose is most likely from over torqing at the factory,stretching the threads.I dont know,I wasnt there. My next saw will be a stihl,it will be exspensive,and I wish you lived closer so I could let you sell it to me.
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I improved it by junking it and buying a user friendly Stihl.
Thats what I recomend to everyone I know.
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jonsered. /end.
Friends have some,like them, but no longer have a local dealer or parts/service.
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We've had very good luck with Stihl's. Two 041's bought in the early 70's have cut the majority of the wood that heats my parents house ever since. We had an 026 pro for a few years, but it was stolen out of the back of my Jeep. The 026 pro was an awesome do-all saw. I just bought a replacement last week, and am very excited to have it in the stable again. We also have an MS170. The 170 is a homeowner grade saw and has some faggy tooless chain adjuster. The chain loosens quicker than it should, though that is partly due to the narrower chain. The narrow chain also lets it cut quicker though. Overall the 170 was very suprising in it's abilities. Much better than I expected. We also have an 044 with a big bore that is also a good saw.
My suggestion, watch craigslist for a used Stihl. I would look for an 026 or bigger.
Husquevarna makes a great saw too, but I don't know the ins and outs of them. Either way, a good saw will last you decades, if cared for. There are so many good used saws on craigslist, it would be silly to buy new.

Whatever route you go, good luck.
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My dad had a Farm Boss for years and it still cuts awesome. The only reason we upgraded to a newer model was when he tripped and fell, injury free. The saw was from the time before chain brakes were installed. We since up graded to a MS 311 or 391.

Jive, when we got the saw about three years ago or so the dealer mentioned a engine change to meet Cali emmision standards. Is this true and how are the engines holding up? Any years to shy away from?
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Just to ad a little fuel to the fire.... have you ever seen a really old husky?? Wanna know why? Just guess LOL
I've got a little stihl 170 for the really small stuff, a 310 for most everything, a 660 for when the wood gets big and an 084 for when it's just absurd LOL
Love them all (except for the fixed carb on the 170).

Just make sure you don't go short on the cubes, keep your chain sharp (learn how to do it PROPERLY) & do a little maintenance once in a while 'n you should be good with whatever you choose. Make sure you've got a good dealer nearby for whatever you pick because eventually you're gonna need a part or two. Even if it's an air filter or a fuel pickup screen it's nice if you don't have to drive to timbukto & back for a ten dollar part.
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LOL, the Jonsered's share the same plastics as the huskys, i think husky's and stihl are both are good saws, i've always like the Husqvarna for the seemingly higher rpm, which feels like more power in the hands.
This. Both are great saws but that is the most noticable difference between my husky and my buddies various stihl saws. My 455 husky revs quicker and higher than any comparable stihl I've been next to.
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This. Both are great saws but that is the most noticable difference between my husky and my buddies various stihl saws. My 455 husky revs quicker and higher than any comparable stihl I've been next to.
That could be all in the various clutch set ups.
Bar length and chain guide depth will also play a major roll

I bet if I put a 16" bar on my 460 magnum it will out rev yours..

Lots of things play a roll in saws and power
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Stihl has a $30 coupon if you are on their email list, and is giving a free case with the ms290, and double your warranty if you buy a six pack of gas/oil premixed cans or 12 pack of premix oil. Echo is giving a free case, hat, and bottle of bar oil, good products too.
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What! I'm on the email list and I didn't get it. I did get the double warranty for buying the oil.
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