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Old December 10th, 2013, 12:39 PM   #301
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Its not the 60s that are the problem, its the fact that that 1 ton axles probably weigh more than the rest of the Cherokee. Sprung mass to un-sprung mass ratio is bad news. I wouldnt want my daughter having to daily drive a rig like that, but I am sure someone will tell me im rong.
Please explain. I know you do all your race car suspension and know your stuff, but I fail to see why having more weight down low is a bad thing. Stability is good, especially with female drivers

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Um, I have been known to misbehave a little at SnoFARI. Not a fair assessment place.
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Old December 10th, 2013, 03:27 PM   #302
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especially with female drivers
Easy on the female driver shit...I'll tell your wife!

True story.
Damn eye witnesses!!
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Old December 10th, 2013, 04:07 PM   #303
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It's ok, pretty sure I was worse.....but that was before the wife. I'll still party like that, but no more random hookups!!
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Old December 10th, 2013, 04:21 PM   #304
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It's ok, pretty sure I was worse.....but that was before the wife. I'll still party like that, but no more random hookups!!

Hahaha....I'm sure she will appreciate that!
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Um, I have been known to misbehave a little at SnoFARI. Not a fair assessment place.
or maybe it's the right place

as for the 1 ton stuff, good call going that route imo. my daughter has been driving my rig since she was 10yo (now 14) and I never worry about her breaking something.
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Please explain. I know you do all your race car suspension and know your stuff, but I fail to see why having more weight down low is a bad thing. Stability is good, especially with female drivers


True story.
Yes low weight is good for CG and stability while wheeling at slow speeds. But when you are driving at higher speeds, down bumpy roads your springs and shocks need to control the axle and keep it on the ground. If you don't have enough sprung mass (body, frame, motor, etc) to counter act what it takes for your springs and shocks to do the job, the vehicle can become unstable. Basically the heavier your axles are, the less stable your vehicle will be at speed. Bumps, evasive maneuvers, etc will cause you to crash easier. Decreasing unsprung mass is one of the basic things you can do to improve a vehicles performance. Cherokees have very low sprung mass.
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I see somebody got out of the pattern of washing her jeep every other day....
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I see somebody got out of the pattern of washing her jeep every other day....

Been a sloppy salty mess around here....

So her birthday is in a few weeks...ordered her this: JCR



Think that will complete the look and there she will sit .......UNTIL.....she gets a dd.
Then.......................out go those baby axles........
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Yes low weight is good for CG and stability while wheeling at slow speeds. But when you are driving at higher speeds, down bumpy roads your springs and shocks need to control the axle and keep it on the ground. If you don't have enough sprung mass (body, frame, motor, etc) to counter act what it takes for your springs and shocks to do the job, the vehicle can become unstable. Basically the heavier your axles are, the less stable your vehicle will be at speed. Bumps, evasive maneuvers, etc will cause you to crash easier. Decreasing unsprung mass is one of the basic things you can do to improve a vehicles performance. Cherokees have very low sprung mass.
Well that just makes perfect sense Then again, very few people putting 1 tons under Jeeps are doing it for high speed use. It improves stability and COG for crawling and low speed, but hurts high speed control/stability.

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