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Old September 25th, 2012, 11:36 AM   #1
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alzheimer's

I have been spending a lot of time with my gf's grandfather who has this disease. Holy shit this is awful. He had a freakout this morning and Gma had to call me over until her son could make it there. This Guy is a Korean war vet and he has nightmares about it and wakes up there. Some days he remembers me, some days he thinks I am one of his old buddies. I always thought cancer was the worst but IMO this tops it. He is in great physical shape but his mind is going. Much respect to the people who deal with this in a family member every day, idk if I could do it.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #2
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I agree. A totally shitty disease. When I'm done finding a cure for heart disease, diabetes and obesity I'm going to start on Alzheimers next.
None of those cause you to wake up and bite your wife of 40+ years because you think she is a Chinese Communist trying to knife you. Maybe you can pray for a cure.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 11:50 AM   #3
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my grand father died of alzheimers, it was pretty terrible.

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I agree. A totally shitty disease. When I'm done finding a cure for heart disease, diabetes and obesity I'm going to start on Alzheimers next. The worst is when it progresses so they just keep relooping the same minute of their prior life over and over and over and over...
well, let me help you out.

Obesity - Caused by laziness, poor diet, and lack of exercise.
Diabetes-often caused by obesity, we've now eliminated 2 of your life long conquests (well except for those who are not overweight and still get stuck with diabetes)
Heart Disease - Most often afflicts those who smoke, drink, eat like shit, and or are obese.

Gee, I guess if we just get these people to stop being fat a large part of your work is done.

Now, back on to alzheimers please.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 11:50 AM   #4
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Both my Great Grandpa and my Grandma had this awful disease. I know what it is like to try and help someone who can not even remember who you are. I hope when I get older I don't put my kids through this.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #5
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Yup....shitty........my mom was diag. with it two years ago and I can see it progressing everytime I see her. All of her sisters have already passed from it.

Shitty for sure
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Old September 25th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #6
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my grand father died of alzheimers, it was pretty terrible.



well, let me help you out.

Obesity - Caused by laziness, poor diet, and lack of exercise.
Diabetes-often caused by obesity, we've now eliminated 2 of your life long conquests (well except for those who are not overweight and still get stuck with diabetes)
Heart Disease - Most often afflicts those who smoke, drink, eat like shit, and or are obese.

Gee, I guess if we just get these people to stop being fat a large part of your work is done.

Now, back on to alzheimers please.
Alzheimers and/or Dimensia can be related to all of the things that Kickstand just described. It just plain sucks, and unfortunately with my family's past history, I will probably be in that boat in my mid to late 70's.

My Dad retired at the age of 65, and within 6 months was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, and within 13 months after that, he was dead.

He never got to enjoy retirement.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #7
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Gpa's sister bought him a nice lighter for his pipe. We had the same conversation about it 4 times in a hour.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 12:17 PM   #8
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I feel for you man. It is a really bad condition for the afflicted and perhaps moreso the family.
I am OK, it's his family that I really feel for. I can't image my dad not recognizing me.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 12:21 PM   #9
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My grandmother has Dimensia and it sucks bad. One day she knows me and the next time I come to the door she looks at me like I am some mad man there to kill her. Its terrible.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #10
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Gpa's sister bought him a nice lighter for his pipe. We had the same conversation about it 4 times in a hour.
put somthing special in his pipe. according to some studies it slows it down some, but expecally is good when used early on before symtoms set in.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 12:30 PM   #11
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put somthing special in his pipe. according to some studies it slows it down some, but expecally is good when used early on before symtoms set in.
I would love to. We have discussed the benefits of it together, but his family is the typical "drugs are bad, now eat your oxycontin and zoloft." Type of mindset.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 12:40 PM   #12
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I would love to. We have discussed the benefits of it together, but his family is the typical "drugs are bad, now eat your oxycontin and zoloft." Type of mindset.
I would 50/50 mix it for him, they'd never know seriously it seems to be the only thing that slows it down according to researchers.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 12:41 PM   #13
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Old September 25th, 2012, 01:01 PM   #15
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My grandfather has it for over 15 years. Some in my family were hurt when he wouldn't recognized us, starting about 10 years ago. We just figured out what stories he loved to tell. Stories of his time in the navy, stories about being married for 76 years, working on the farm. I had the opportunistic to hear those stories so many time, I'll be able to recite them to my kids, grand-kids ect.
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Gpa's sister bought him a nice lighter for his pipe. We had the same conversation about it 4 times in a hour.
My grandma is getting like this, I have seen her new ring at least six times in a night. She got her problems from chain smoking one after another after another, and not exercising any so she was depleting oxygen to her brain. She has a fantastic memory for things from long ago, her short term is what is ruined. Sadly she induced this condition herself
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Old September 25th, 2012, 01:28 PM   #18
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What were we just talking about?.....oh yeah, I'm hungry.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 02:05 PM   #19
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I agree. A totally shitty disease. When I'm done finding a cure for heart disease, diabetes and obesity I'm going to start on Alzheimers next. The worst is when it progresses so they just keep relooping the same minute of their prior life over and over and over and over...

One of my contractors fathers had the disease at this state. He actually hired more employees for his company to comfort his dad and added an addition to the building. Every day his father would come in and request his favorite 3 employees that had been there for many years to re arrange the warehouse a certain way. He would go home around 2 and they would put everything back the same way. The addition was a second warehouse next door that actually housed the normal operating business. This went on for about a year and a half until he passed.

His son is a great guy and it cost tons of money to do this but it made his dad happy and he passed peacefully. All the employees feel honored that they were able to help in such a manor.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 02:27 PM   #20
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I am OK, it's his family that I really feel for. I can't image my dad not recognizing me.
It sucks.

My Dad was diagnosed with the "rigidity" form of Parkinson's in his mid 40s. The meds he was on, were in large part to "supercharge" the neurons and allow him some movement. For a while this worked great, even if he looked like he was flailing around - he at least could move and putter.

7 years ago, he fell and broke his nose. He aspirated a blood clot after having surgery to fix it. Nearly died, has never been the same.

Now, he's in a state where the combined effects of 20+ years of parkinson's plus numerous trauma's from falls have left him wheel chair bound, unable to even feed himself. We, his close family get a few brief glimmers on a good day, where we can spark a smile talking about his old GTO, or a smirk about bumping uglies making one of us 4 kids.

For those that don't know, the final stages of Parkinson's typically includes degradation into dementia. He turned 66 in August. Physically his cardio/vascular system runs like a top. He could linger, gradually circling the drain in this condition for decades

As the oldest, and only Son still living in Michigan, it sucks, sucks, sucks. And it sucks, sucks, sucks watching your Mom deal with that - and her dedication going to visit him literally almost every day for a couple of hours per day and being his advocate is as sad, as it is an inspiration for what true love and commitment looks like.
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