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JACK48461 · September 15th, 2012, 11:20 AM

Looking for everyones thoughts im only doing a 28x32 12' tall wall im trying to keep price down and get the most for my money. What does everyone think? Im leaning towards the pole building my township only calls for a 18" rat wall made of treated lumber. Everything I keep reading seems like pole build will save me around 4500 in foundation work and the rest will cost around the same.

bigbchevy · September 15th, 2012, 11:33 AM

Do u ever plan on finishing the inside

Haggar · September 15th, 2012, 11:49 AM

When I have priced them myself looking at lumberyards, for the most part, you are correct on the materials prices. Depends on how you planned to side and roof it as well. The main difference is in the foundation. I think its easier to go very base bones/basic with a pole barn, but as bigbcehvy says, the nicer you want to finish it in the end, the more a stick built makes sense.

I'm having Orchard construction in your town do mine this fall, 30x40x12 pole structure.

cerial · September 15th, 2012, 11:50 AM

Pole barn will go up faster, cost less, and there is a lot you can do yourself as far as insulation, electrical, and finishing. The foundation and walls will be your highest cost. Use steel on the roof and walls to cut down cost. Make sure that you do not scratch the steel as you install it to reduce rust. Choosing dark brown as a steel color will hide rust that will happen over time.

If you know someone that does spray foam it is a great improvement over traditional insulation. 2" of spray foam( check your local code) placed down before the electrical will let you install the electrical later like during the winter from the inside.

You can prep the foundation before hand leveling the area cutting down a good amount of your cost. The amount of fiber in the cement will increase your cost. Depending on what you plan on placing on the cement such as a post lift or such you may need a thicker foundation in spots to avoid cracking around the post.

Look up the codes in your area and see what you can do as far as cutting cost. Spending a bit more now will be worth it. There are a few areas like the insulation where you can save money on it now while being up to code. At a later time you can add more insulation if you feel it is needed. Other areas like the foundation and thickness of the floor is where you should focal your funds with the final and future plans in mind.

JACK48461 · September 15th, 2012, 11:51 AM

The only thing id pry ever do is 4x8 sheets of foam board to half ass insulate it & maybe put up the panels like what ive seen other farmers in my area use but i'd never drywall or anything if thats what your asking.

JACK48461 · September 15th, 2012, 11:57 AM

Just planning on steel roof & siding just going to color match the house. I do have to put brick 4' up then siding on the wall facing the street bc from the road it needs to match the house the township says.

BlooMule · September 15th, 2012, 01:20 PM

Armada can be pricks. Do what the city inspector says to avoid headache.

booblinker · September 15th, 2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlooMule

Armada can be pricks. Do what the city inspector says to avoid headache.

He is moving to bruce twp.

September 15th, 2012, 11:20 AM	#1
JACK48461 HEAVY D Join Date: 07-30-10 Location: BRUCE TWP , MI Posts: 596 iTrader: (4)	Pole barn vs stick built Looking for everyones thoughts im only doing a 28x32 12' tall wall im trying to keep price down and get the most for my money. What does everyone think? Im leaning towards the pole building my township only calls for a 18" rat wall made of treated lumber. Everything I keep reading seems like pole build will save me around 4500 in foundation work and the rest will cost around the same.

September 15th, 2012, 11:33 AM	#2
bigbchevy missmrgreenagain Join Date: 09-15-07 Location: fenton /hartland mi Posts: 13,522 iTrader: (134)	Do u ever plan on finishing the inside __________________ H.o.r.e cheap gears [url]www.ronsmachiningservice.net[url] tube bending and gear installs pm me for info! gears installed for $150 and up per axle.

September 15th, 2012, 01:20 PM	#7
BlooMule Devout Atheist Join Date: 11-08-05 Location: A little North of Deetroit and a little South of Roseville Posts: 18,981 iTrader: (11)	Armada can be pricks. Do what the city inspector says to avoid headache. __________________ Don't die a virgin, there are terrorists up there waiting for you!

September 15th, 2012, 11:49 AM	#3
Haggar Covered in mud... Join Date: 11-06-05 Location: Oxford, MI Posts: 16,815 iTrader: (48)	When I have priced them myself looking at lumberyards, for the most part, you are correct on the materials prices. Depends on how you planned to side and roof it as well. The main difference is in the foundation. I think its easier to go very base bones/basic with a pole barn, but as bigbcehvy says, the nicer you want to finish it in the end, the more a stick built makes sense. I'm having Orchard construction in your town do mine this fall, 30x40x12 pole structure.

September 15th, 2012, 11:50 AM	#4
cerial Insomniac Join Date: 09-06-08 Location: Middleville,MI/Newburgh,NY Posts: 1,363 iTrader: (2)	Pole barn will go up faster, cost less, and there is a lot you can do yourself as far as insulation, electrical, and finishing. The foundation and walls will be your highest cost. Use steel on the roof and walls to cut down cost. Make sure that you do not scratch the steel as you install it to reduce rust. Choosing dark brown as a steel color will hide rust that will happen over time. If you know someone that does spray foam it is a great improvement over traditional insulation. 2" of spray foam( check your local code) placed down before the electrical will let you install the electrical later like during the winter from the inside. You can prep the foundation before hand leveling the area cutting down a good amount of your cost. The amount of fiber in the cement will increase your cost. Depending on what you plan on placing on the cement such as a post lift or such you may need a thicker foundation in spots to avoid cracking around the post. Look up the codes in your area and see what you can do as far as cutting cost. Spending a bit more now will be worth it. There are a few areas like the insulation where you can save money on it now while being up to code. At a later time you can add more insulation if you feel it is needed. Other areas like the foundation and thickness of the floor is where you should focal your funds with the final and future plans in mind.

September 15th, 2012, 11:51 AM	#5
JACK48461 HEAVY D Join Date: 07-30-10 Location: BRUCE TWP , MI Posts: 596 iTrader: (4)	The only thing id pry ever do is 4x8 sheets of foam board to half ass insulate it & maybe put up the panels like what ive seen other farmers in my area use but i'd never drywall or anything if thats what your asking.

September 15th, 2012, 11:57 AM	#6
JACK48461 HEAVY D Join Date: 07-30-10 Location: BRUCE TWP , MI Posts: 596 iTrader: (4)	Just planning on steel roof & siding just going to color match the house. I do have to put brick 4' up then siding on the wall facing the street bc from the road it needs to match the house the township says.