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Old September 11th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #101
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And this has to do with bicycles, or anything else significant how?

And would you rather vote for Mitt Romney or Willard Romney?
I'd prefer to vote for a Newt or a Ron. I don't like either current option. However I will vote for the guy who doesn't have a cloudy history and isn't a proven failure. Not to mention a sissy.
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Old September 11th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #102
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I'd probably hurt myself trying to explain metaphors to you. I'll just leave you to wonder what I meant.
Maybe you could just explain yourself because for a conservative to understand a liberal is just way to difficult. Our minds are light years apart, like as in the opposite direction
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I'd prefer to vote for a Newt or a Ron. I don't like either current option. However I will vote for the guy who doesn't have a cloudy history and isn't a proven failure. Not to mention a sissy.
I have yet to see any proof of Romney's manliness.
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I'd rather see an explanation on the reason for all the mom jeans that "hip/cool" president of ours wears.
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Old September 11th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #105
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I'd rather see an explanation on the reason for all the mom jeans that "hip/cool" president of ours wears.
Now there's something important to consider.
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I have yet to see any proof of Romney's manliness.
I haven't either. However his past is a little bit clearer and he is not yet proven a complete dud.
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Or walking in the wrong direction. (just helping out with the metaphors)
Well, truthfully, if you want to get picky, we haven't turned around yet. We're still walking in the wrong direction. We're still spending more then we make. We just slowed down. .
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Well, truthfully, if you want to get picky, we haven't turned around yet. We're still walking in the wrong direction. We're still spending more then we make. We just slowed down. .
That's what I meant.
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Maybe you could just explain yourself because for a conservative to understand a liberal is just way to difficult. Our minds are light years apart, like as in the opposite direction
I can't speak for liberals, just myself.

With respect to the economy, yes, it's obvious to anyone that the recovery over the past 4 years has not been as good as hoped. But I'm not convinced that going back to what we were doing for the 8 years before the collapse will lead to a better outcome.
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I can't speak for liberals, just myself.

With respect to the economy, yes, it's obvious to anyone that the recovery over the past 4 years has not been as good as hoped. But I'm not convinced that going back to what we were doing for the 8 years before the collapse will lead to a better outcome.
You are correct in saying that the economy is not doing great. Usually when we have gone through bad times like a real bad recession the recovery is usually a strong recovery. History has proved this. A weak recession has proven a weak recovery.
We are going on 4 years after a terrible recession and we still have high unemployment numbers. Food prices going through the roof, 46% increase in welfare and food stamp recipients and gas prices have increased by 107% in 4 years.
As for the last 8 years you cannot blame that on Bush.
I believe it was because of Clinton and his brainiac of an idea that every american should be able to own thier own home( even if they can't afford it).
By deregulating the mortgage industry was the begining, IMO
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I can't speak for liberals, just myself.

With respect to the economy, yes, it's obvious to anyone that the recovery over the past 4 years has not been as good as hoped. But I'm not convinced that going back to what we were doing for the 8 years before the collapse will lead to a better outcome.
What led to the collapse was Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. I remember some videos of adamently fighting the growing of their abilities in the 02ish era. Something along the lines of Pelosi and Reid claiming home ownership is a right, even for those who cannot afford it.

I don't know why this part is so ignored.
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You are correct in saying that the economy is not doing great. Usually when we have gone through bad times like a real bad recession the recovery is usually a strong recovery. History has proved this. A weak recession has proven a weak recovery.
We are going on 4 years after a terrible recession and we still have high unemployment numbers. Food prices going through the roof, 46% increase in welfare and food stamp recipients and gas prices have increased by 107% in 4 years.
As for the last 8 years you cannot blame that on Bush.
I believe it was because of Clinton and his brainiac of an idea that every american should be able to own thier own home( even if they can't afford it).
By deregulating the mortgage industry was the begining, IMO
Don't try and blame Clinton. The USA never had a stronger economy then when he was in office. And for the the first time in my lifetime the USA had a surplus. Not a deficit.
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What led to the collapse was Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. I remember some videos of adamently fighting the growing of their abilities in the 02ish era. Something along the lines of Pelosi and Reid claiming home ownership is a right, even for those who cannot afford it.

I don't know why this part is so ignored.
Because the truth really hurts. Liberals can't stand it.
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Old September 11th, 2012, 07:37 PM   #114
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Don't try and blame Clinton. The USA never had a stronger economy then when he was in office. And for the the first time in my lifetime the USA had a surplus. Not a deficit.
Clinton also started NAFTA and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac... Two things that continue to hurt us.

I can't imagine how long it will take to get rid of all the garbage in Obama care. Think Pelosi has bothered to read it yet?
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Don't try and blame Clinton. The USA never had a stronger economy then when he was in office. And for the the first time in my lifetime the USA had a surplus. Not a deficit.
Actually Clinton rode the coat tails of what Reagan did. This country enjoyed 25 years of economic boom because of Reagan.
Reagan sure made Clinton look good.
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Actually Clinton rode the coat tails of what Reagan did. This country enjoyed 25 years of economic boom because of Reagan.
Reagan sure made Clinton look good.
You do a pretty good job of regurgitating what others say. Look less like a republican sheep by giving an example.
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Don't try and blame Clinton. The USA never had a stronger economy then when he was in office. And for the the first time in my lifetime the USA had a surplus. Not a deficit.
It was great while my house values were raising at incredible rates. Unfortunately, it was just a bubble. It was not sustainable, and I've taken it in the shorts along with tons of other homeowners.

Same with Tech companies. Clinton rode in on Y2K were IT folks were writing their own salaries. That was great while it lasted, too. I saw a lot folks go from making great salaries to hopelessly searching.
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Actually Clinton rode the coat tails of what Reagan did. This country enjoyed 25 years of economic boom because of Reagan.
Reagan sure made Clinton look good.
Wasnt there a Bush between Reagan and Clinton ? And for nafta that was done by George H.W. Bush. So don't blame that on Clinton either.
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You do a pretty good job of regurgitating what others say. Look less like a republican sheep by giving an example.
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What type of examples, Clinton not having sex with that woman or the deregulating of the mortgage industry?
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Wasnt there a Bush between Reagan and Clinton ? And for nafta that was done by George H.W. Bush. So don't blame that on Clinton either.
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