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Old October 20th, 2006, 05:05 AM   #1
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(Bill & Hillary - Grit your teeth before you read this)

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 3 26 46 228.



Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of Col. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.
Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report..remain liable for induction.

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice. Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from Carter.

Bill Clinton is the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United State s . All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton .

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia , which killed five U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia , which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington , DC . who are now dead would be alive today.

INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate question:

There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity.
The other sponsors terrorism.
That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden?

THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath.


Sincerely, Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)


P.S. Please forward this to as many people as you can! We don't want this woman to even THINK of running for President!
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Bill Clinton is a piece of shit. His wife is an even bigger piece of shit. I served under the Clinton Admin. Talk about the military being broke and undermanned.
You are soo right. We should have a huge deficet like we do now so the Miltary can play war and have all the toys while the economy takes the back burner . . . GWB is GoD!! The repulican party is AWESOME!!! Goooo


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You are soo right. We should have a huge deficet like we do now so the Miltary can play war and have all the toys while the economy takes the back burner . . . GWB is GoD!! The repulican party is AWESOME!!! Goooo


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I am still not following the whole economy thing you bring up.

Michigan economy sucks-Liberal Tree Hugging Californian/Canadian Govenor and heavily employed by industry.

Country is indeed downsizing on jobs, and the housing markets have slowed, but do keep in mind that is only a small part of the economy. I know there might be no point in mentioning this because I doubt you will actually consider it, which is fine. I do recall hearing on the news that the Dow is opening at a record because it closed at a record the day prior. Holy fukc , economy is sucking so bad people are making money.
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I am still not following the whole economy thing you bring up.

Michigan economy sucks-Liberal Tree Hugging Californian/Canadian Govenor and heavily employed by industry.

Country is indeed downsizing on jobs, and the housing markets have slowed, but do keep in mind that is only a small part of the economy. I know there might be no point in mentioning this because I doubt you will actually consider it, which is fine. I do recall hearing on the news that the Dow is opening at a record because it closed at a record the day prior. Holy fukc , economy is sucking so bad people are making money.
Yes, yes you are right. I forgot how well both the war in Iraq and the economy is doing. . . . goooo Bush

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So who would you have in office that would have EVERYTHING going right ALL the time?
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(Bill & Hillary - Grit your teeth before you read this)

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 3 26 46 228.



Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of Col. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.
Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report..remain liable for induction.

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice. Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from Carter.

Bill Clinton is the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United State s . All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton .

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia , which killed five U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia , which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington , DC . who are now dead would be alive today.

INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate question:

There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity.
The other sponsors terrorism.
That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden?

THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath.


Sincerely, Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)


P.S. Please forward this to as many people as you can! We don't want this woman to even THINK of running for President!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that this is about Bill Clinton and you're saying not to vote for Hillary?
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THe military career of G W Bush.

Under his command as Commander in Chief

2786 of his members killed.
21077 wounded.

These numbers will continue to rise.
One day we will pull out of Iraq. Who knows when, who knows which president will do it. It could be 2 -20 years from now.
But when it happens.
terrorism will continue and we will look back and say WTF were we there for?

If you think the war on terror can be one you better start trying to figure out how you can keep radical Muslims from being born. Then we can win the war on terror.
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THe military career of G W Bush.

Under his command as Commander in Chief

2786 of his members killed.
21077 wounded.

These numbers will continue to rise.
One day we will pull out of Iraq. Who knows when, who knows which president will do it. It could be 2 -20 years from now.
But when it happens.
terrorism will continue and we will look back and say WTF were we there for?

If you think the war on terror can be one you better start trying to figure out how you can keep radical Muslims from being born. Then we can win the war on terror.

Uh.... do we really have to post the number of people killed under Roosevelt, Johnson, etc?
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Uh.... do we really have to post the number of people killed under Roosevelt, Johnson, etc?
Those were wars with a purpose that achieved a goal. Those men under those presidents died for a good cause.

The men and women of today are doing their duty and serving their country. I am proud of every one of them. They are just being lead poorly.

Dont get me wrong, I am not anti-war

This war is not a war that will ever be won. We can pull out and say we won and call it a victory some day. But the terrorists will continue as normal.
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Those were wars with a purpose that achieved a goal. Those men under those presidents died for a good cause.

The men and women of today are doing their duty and serving their country. I am proud of every one of them. They are just being lead poorly.

Dont get me wrong, I am not anti-war

This war is not a war that will ever be won. We can pull out and say we won and call it a victory some day. But the terrorists will continue as normal.

Repoast... and I highly doubt anyone feels like discussing it once again..
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Repoast... and I highly doubt anyone feels like discussing it once again..
You seem interested
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Those were wars with a purpose that achieved a goal. Those men under those presidents died for a good cause.

The men and women of today are doing their duty and serving their country. I am proud of every one of them. They are just being lead poorly.

Dont get me wrong, I am not anti-war

This war is not a war that will ever be won. We can pull out and say we won and call it a victory some day. But the terrorists will continue as normal.
Your totally right. We should just roll over, turn the other cheek, and accept that.

There are alot of other things you will never change too. Such as crime, that will always be present. Do you suggest we should not attempt to fight it?
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Those were wars with a purpose that achieved a goal. Those men under those presidents died for a good cause.
Although few will speak ill of WWII, there are quite a few who did not believe in our country going to war in Vietnam.

Maybe in 20 years people will say "Those were wars with a purpose that achieved a goal" about Iraq, as you just have for Vietnam.
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You are soo right. We should have a huge deficet like we do now so the Miltary can play war and have all the toys while the economy takes the back burner . . . GWB is GoD!! The repulican party is AWESOME!!! Goooo


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I do not think the economy is bad.

I have said it before, talent rises and is rewarded.
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Those were wars with a purpose that achieved a goal. Those men under those presidents died for a good cause.

The men and women of today are doing their duty and serving their country. I am proud of every one of them. They are just being lead poorly.

Dont get me wrong, I am not anti-war

This war is not a war that will ever be won. We can pull out and say we won and call it a victory some day. But the terrorists will continue as normal.
please enlighten us what we should be doing to combat radical islam violence ???

What do you consider "winning" ?

Also while your at it please explain while only certain countried have problems with terrorists and they are not welcome or tolerated in police states, communist countries, military dictatorships ?

I would seriously like the answers to these questions. anxiously waiting.
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You are soo right. We should have a huge deficet like we do now so the Miltary can play war and have all the toys while the economy takes the back burner . . . GWB is GoD!! The repulican party is AWESOME!!! Goooo


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the military and economy are independent of eachother :miff: . A strong economy does not mean weak military, and a weak military does not mean a strong economy. We can have both or have neither. Your statement has no substance.
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Sounds like typical "slick Willy" with his lies, deceptions, and "working the system" to his advantage.

BTW I'm refering to whats I read here: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/politics/clintondraft.asp not to the original post.
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please enlighten us what we should be doing to combat radical islam violence ???

What do you consider "winning" ?

Also while your at it please explain while only certain countried have problems with terrorists and they are not welcome or tolerated in police states, communist countries, military dictatorships ?

I would seriously like the answers to these questions. anxiously waiting.

To answer your first question. I dont know exactly what we should do. I do not have all the answers nor do you. But this reminds me of a quote from Admiral Yamamoto after attacking Pearl Harbor. He said attacking Pearl Harbor will "wake a sleeping giant". I am no historian but it appears to me we are waking a sleeping giant ourselves. More and more civilians and us, Iraqi and coalitions forces are being killed every day. It is getting worse and we are losing support globaly. And some point we are going to have to return home and defend our borders here at home. Let them fight it out. We had our own civil war and it is part of what made our country today.

Second question. I consider winning a terror free environment. This will never happen. If you disagree with me on this one then find another planet to live on.

I am not sure what you are asking on your last question but I assume it is why do terrorists dislike us so much and leave other countries alone?
Well it would take to long to explain. I dont believe anyone can get it 100% But I stold this from another site. Hope you have time to read it. I agree with everything but the last paragraph.
Why do terrorists hate America enough to give up their lives in order to deal the country such mortal blows? Of course it,s not America the terrorists hate; it,s American foreign policy. It,s what the United States has done to the world in the past half century -- all the violence, the bombings, the depleted uranium, the cluster bombs, the assassinations, the promotion of torture, the overthrow of governments, and more. The terrorists -- whatever else they might be -- are also rational human beings; which is to say that in their own minds they have a rational justification for their actions. Most terrorists are people deeply concerned by what they see as social, political or religious injustice and hypocrisy, and the immediate grounds for their terrorism is often retaliation for an action of the United States.
Most Americans find it difficult in the extreme to accept the proposition that terrorist acts against the United States can be viewed as revenge for Washington,s policies abroad. They believe that the US is targeted because of its freedom, its democracy, its modernity, its wealth, or just being part of the West.
But government officials know better. A Department of Defense study in 1997 concluded that: "Historical data show a strong correlation between US involvement in international situations and an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States." Former president Jimmy Carter, some years after he left the White House, was unambiguous in his concordance with such a sentiment: "We sent Marines into Lebanon and you only have to go to Lebanon, to Syria or to Jordan to witness first-hand the intense hatred among many people for the United States because we bombed and shelled and unmercifully killed totally innocent villagers -- women and children and farmers and housewives -- in those villages around Beirut. ... As a result of that ... we became kind of a Satan in the minds of those who are deeply resentful."
The terrorists responsible for the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 sent a letter to the New York Times which stated, in part: "We declare our responsibility for the explosion on the mentioned building. This action was done in response for the American political, economical, and military support to Israel the state of terrorism and to the rest of the dictator countries in the region."
For more than four months the most powerful nation in history rained down a daily storm of missiles upon one of the poorest and most backward people in the world. Eventually, this question pressed itself onto the world,s stage: Who killed more innocent, defenseless people? The terrorists in the United States on September 11 with their flying bombs? Or the Americans in Afghanistan with their AGM-86D cruise missiles, their AGM-130 missiles, their 15,000 pound "daisy cutter" bombs, their depleted uranium, and their cluster bombs? By year's end, the count of the terrorists, victims in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania stood at about 3,000. The total count of civilian dead in Afghanistan was essentially ignored by American officials and just about everyone else, but a painstaking compilation of numerous individual reports from the domestic and international media, aid agencies, and the United Nations, by an American professor -- hunting down the many separate incidents of 100-plus counts of the dead, the scores of dead, the dozens, and the smaller numbers -- arrived at considerably more than 3,500 through early December, and still counting.
The American scorched-earth bombing of Afghanistan may well turn out to be a political train wreck. Can it be doubted that thousands throughout the Muslim world were emotionally and spiritually recruited to the cause of the next Osama bin Laden by the awful ruination and perceived injustice? That is to say, the next generation of terrorists. Indeed, in December, while the American bombs were still falling on Afghanistan, a man -- British citizen Richard Reid, who was a convert to Islam -- tried to blow up an American Airlines plane en route to the United States with explosives hidden in his shoes. At the London mosque that Reid had attended, the cleric in charge warned that extremists were enlisting other young men like Reid and that agents aligned with radical Muslim figures had stepped up recruiting efforts since September 11. The cleric said that he knew of "hundreds of Richard Reids" recruited in Britain. Reid, described in the press as a "drifter," reportedly traveled to Israel, Egypt, the Netherlands, and Belgium before arriving in Paris and boarding the American Airlines plane. This raises the question of who was financing him. The freezing of numerous bank accounts of alleged terrorist groups throughout the world by the United States may have rather limited effect.
Americans do not feel any more secure in their places of work, in their places of leisure, or in their travels than they did a day before their government's bombings began.
Has the power elite learned anything? Here's James Woolsey, former Director of the CIA, speaking in December in Washington, advocating an invasion of Iraq and unconcerned about the response of the Arab world: The silence of the Arab public in the wake of America's victories in Afghanistan, he said, proves that "only fear will re-establish respect for the U.S." What, then, can the United States do to end terrorism directed against it? The answer lies in removing the anti-American motivations of the terrorists. To achieve this, American foreign policy will have to undergo a metamorphosis.

If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize to all the widows and orphans, the tortured and impoverished, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. Then I would announce, in all sincerity, to every corner of the world, that America's global interventions have come to an end, and inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the USA but now -- oddly enough -- a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims. There would be more than enough money. One year's military budget of 330 billion dollars is equal to more than $18,000 an hour for every hour since Jesus Christ was born. That's what I'd do on my first three days in the White House. On the fourth day, I'd be assassinated.

Again these are not my exact words but in all fairness I think it is pretty accurate and I think the last paragraph is rediculous. But I left the entire article in anyway.

I answered all your questions so now you can answer this question for me.
Wheter you agree or disagree with the current administrations actions and policies, do you think we should remain in Iraq with the current conditions and allow more of our sons and daughters be killed? If so would you stay the course or would you change the way things are being handled currently?

Last i checked the current casualties for October were around 69.

I would seriously like you to answer these questions. Anxiously waiting by the way.
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Those were wars with a purpose that achieved a goal. Those men under those presidents died for a good cause.

The men and women of today are doing their duty and serving their country. I am proud of every one of them. They are just being lead poorly.

Dont get me wrong, I am not anti-war

This war is not a war that will ever be won. We can pull out and say we won and call it a victory some day. But the terrorists will continue as normal.
yep I agree. I hate to get tied into political discussions, because, well, mainly, I hate the government. All of it. I do agree that the war in the middle east is like Nam. You can't fight and win against millions of people who hate you, and have fought each other for 1000's of years. My $0.02. HOWEVER..I do respect all veterans and active military personnel. It's those guys who keep it on the line, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for that.
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