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Old July 1st, 2015, 10:53 PM   #1
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So I might as well start my project post since I am starting on my rig already.
I just picked up a 1982 LJ80v that is almost street worthy. I am going to break my build up into stages.

First I started out with a pretty much stock LJ80v with a light bar and some lights, RPM gauge, and battery relocated under passenger seat. From my knowledge that is about all that has changed. The body has had work done to it(bondo, floor patches etc) seems pretty solid right now as does the frame but we will see later on when I attempt to do some body work to it.

What I am looking for is mostly just a weekend wheeler to go wheeling with both 4wd vehicles and ATVs/Side By Sides, I am also considering using it as a 2ndary vehicle if need be... I live in the country but my work is about 5km away(50km/h speed limit) and the closest town is 15km away(80km/h speed limit) as well the closest trail head is about 5km away as well. Likely will not use it regularly(only when the wife needs the DD or the DD is in for repairs).

So here are the stages of my build:

Stage 1: Street Queen
Swap Disc Brakes in All 4 Corners
Upgrade the Master Cylinder
Swap out the distributor for a SJ413 distributor as well as coil.
Relocate the seats to push back to the rear wheel well.
Give it some TLC(oil change, spark plugs/wires, replace 1 headlight and 1 turn signal bulb, drop in a yellow top battery, relocate the battery to just behind the passengers seat since I am sure its current spot might get a bit wet later on.)
Remove rear tire carrier and add License plate holder to the rear door.

Stage 2: Weekend Wheeler
Do a spring over on it with either stock leafs or other depending on what options are available.
31-32" mudders
Drop in a 1000cc big block out of a SJ410
Front and Rear HD Bumpers(2" receiver on each for a portable winch setup)
Add tube sliders to the rockers

Stage 3: Lock her up
Get some manual locking hubs from a SJ413 up front
Locker front and rear
Add a bit of trussing to the axle housings
Maybe upgrade to recentered hummer 2pc 8bolt rims with ABS beadlocks.
Build some tube fenders for it
Exocage it? Not a fan of the look but might be needed to protect myself and the LJ. May consider other options as well.


As you can see there is alot of plans for it, whether they get accomplished will be one thing however I hope to be able to complete Stage 1 over the next couple of months. Possibly start on Stage 2 this year as well.. If all goes well anyways.

Here are some pics of the day I picked it up... one picture is of my son happily sitting in the drivers seat... he asked me if I bought it for him lol.

I welcome all feedback good or bad would love to hear from everyone.





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So after spending the afternoon I ended up getting her running via fuel IV... The fuel tank is shot.. does anyone know if there is NOS fuel tanks for these? or if a fuel tank from another vehicle will work in it? or will I need a custom one built?

Once I hooked it up to the fuel IV she started up with some choke then idled smooth when I dropped the throttle she sputter a bit at first but after that ran GREAT. Initially there was some smoke but after she warmed up the smoke went away... I did let her cool off then started her up again and dropped the throttle without any sputtering at all.

I also believe it is the battery that is shot on her so I need to drop in a new battery, new fuel tank and she should be close to ready to hit the road.

Here is the initial video of her running with the initial sputter:
https://youtu.be/R_41K2Ecegw

Also attached is the IV setup.



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So I got her out on the trails for the first time, she did surprisingly well with stock ride height and street tires I must say... Also brakes work pretty good and no issues with the tcase or tranny. Speedo and Temp gauges work.. also found the issue with loosing all power that I referred to before.

There is a loose wire underneath the dash on passenger side.. I did not trace it yet but will be replacing it next weekend.. I found out the hard way when I was in a mud hole and hit a root which bounced the truck up. Lost complete power and stalled right in the pit.. She fired right up once i found it and crawled right outta the hole.

Here is a video and pictures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vPicX60058
http://youtu.be/tIm7rjIZElw















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So had a somewhat successful day... first had to change brake pads/rotors on my DD... then I was able to swap out what the previous owner put on this thing as a fan belt with an actual one.. the one that was on there was like 4mm wide when the real one should be 9.5mm wide. That got the alternator working a bit but still just not quiet there.. so yeah will need an alternator but atleast i got a good battery in it now.

After that I had the itch so got my friend to dolly me to the local sand dunes(next road over) and we had some fun.. finally got it into 3rd and 4th gear in 2wd and she runs good no noises or issues from any gear but a bit sloppy steering I will need to address..

Here are some pictures for now... videos to come shortly.







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Video 1:
https://youtu.be/C81QsafzZyQ

Video 2:
https://youtu.be/rjKEg6vqdAw

Video 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZeP1e ... e=youtu.be

Video 4:
https://youtu.be/lKPwRBdWt1A

Video 5:
https://youtu.be/ruIIznhjhl4

Video 6(Inside the Cab):
https://youtu.be/Rwn8X6LbB_E
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Swapped out the 30AMP LJ alternator that requires a separate voltage regulator with a 45AMP Samurai alternator

First you need to get yourself a SJ413 Alternator, I picked up a fresh one from the local part store for $139CDN. She will bolt right up just need to do some wiring.



You also need a plug from a donor vehicle as well, this was not something I could find at a part store but luckily for myself I had a complete wiring harness from a 1991 Suzuki Sidekick 1.6L 8V from a earlier project.



I then separated the plug and wires from the harness all the way to the connector


You end up with about 5-6feet of wire maybe more, note the SJ413 alternator plug only has 2 wires(Black with White Tracer and White with Red Tracer).

I then decided to bypass the voltage regulator completely for these 2 wires since the new alternator has an internal voltage regulator.

So I unplugged the voltage regulator from the harness(behind the drivers dash on my LJ80V, I then used a small screw driver(like the ones used for eye glasses) and popped out the White with Red Tracer and Black with White Tracer from the voltage regulator plug.


I then went back to my donor harness and pulled a 4 way connector from that luckily for myself the blade connectors from the LJ harness that I just popped off fit nicely in it.


I then cut and stripped the wires from the alternator and crimped on male blades that also went into the other side of the 4way connector(I only used 2 wire slots)

I made sure to match White with Red tracer from the donor plug to the white and red tracer from the voltage regulator as well as the black with white tracer the black and white tracer.

I then bolted the alternator up and attached the white charge cord to the proper location, started up my LJ and got a perfect read of 14.4V at the battery terminals while running... I then put some load on it(turned on my light bar, Head lights running lights, interior fan etc and getting around 13.5V at the battery terminals so not bad... Especially since I want to eventually replace all my lights with LEDs including a curved 40" LED light bar.



So now my LJ is a whopping 45AMP generator! And everything works including the Charge Indicator. Just like it came from factory with a SJ413 Alternator. I did leave the old plug and wires in the harness just incase for whatever reason I or any new owners would want to revert it back to the LJ80 Alternator but I couldn't see why they would... Likely will get tossed when I redo the entire wire harness and eliminate any and all splices and bad wires.
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And up up she goes...

I had a set of lift shackles laying around from my old samurai:


So I installed them:



They opened up the wheel wells decently:






So I installed a set of 31's that came with my parts machine:










I got a bent bumper mount up front so turning I have some rubbing issues:


Going to try to bend that back to solve that issue...

The rear of the tire in the front wheel well is a bit tight as well turning:


but thankfully no rubbing on turning alone.

Flexing however is a different story:


Some big rubbage:


However there is about 1/4-1/2" of material i can bend/cut off that will hopefully solve it.

The rear wheel well is just perfect with the 31's even when fully stuffed:
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 12:03 AM   #9
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So much want!
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This thing is amazing!
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So unusual. Very cool.
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Thank you, we are also working on building another out of 2 parts vehicles. Will post a new build thread as the build gets rolling however here is what we will be working with:









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Lotta work but very cool.
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Very neat. Can't say I've ever seen one.
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You have bellybutton Jeeps beat on looks alone. Yes, I have an XJ. These are cool.
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Yeah they really are small LJ stands for Lightweight Jeep I guess... part of the reason I went with them is due to their size... Needed something that can go down ATV trails and believe it or not a Samurai was too large:




Not to mention the wife down graded me from my 2500 Dodge Ram with a Cummins to a Dodge Journey with max tow rating of 3500lbs. So I needed something small that would be no heavier than that loaded + trailer or dolly. With these things rated at 1,700lbs stock I figure about time i lift it, put tires and some lengths of tube on it shouldnt be more than 2,100-2,200lbs.

Here is one compared to a Side By Side for Reference:


So as you can see they are same size if not narrower than SxS/UTVs so its basically a cheap side by side that I can insure and drive on the road.

As for the name yeah it originated as a jab to my friend with the ZJ that you see in the pictures, no real hate for Jeeps love them actually and a 2000 TJ Sport was my first vehicle since then I have owned many and always been in a "jeep like vehicle".

He actually agrees that this thing is a bit better suited for certain things than his ZJ so he ended up buying one and that is what we are creating out of the two I posted earlier. We are in the sand dunes alot and his jeep was a bit too heavy and liked to sink into the sand and start hopping where this thing just floated across plus unsure if I would ever want to hook up to him and pull him out with this thing. However I am sure he would have much better luck in a wrangler style jeep in the sand atleast.
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RHD too?
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None of mine are RHD however the RHD are mostly the LJ10/20's that are more common state side. Most of the ones in Canada are LJ80's which I own.

LJ10/20's are a bit smaller and have a 2 cylinder 359cc 2stroke in them believe it or not... I would love to get one of them eventually.

All mine are LJ80s with a inline 4 cylinder 797cc 4 stroke however I am looking for a F10A(970cc) 4 stroke to swap in out of a SJ410(Early Samurai) down the road since its all bolt on and apparently really wakes it up for only being a 200cc upgrade.
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Neat build. Looks like it is something out of batteries not included

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