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Old June 22nd, 2016, 11:31 PM   #1
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I've been looking for some time, casually. I have a ton of flipping vehicles, so I really didn't need another, but I saw this on the local CL and figrued it was worth a look.

It's a 98 K2500, 8600 GVRW, 350/4L80E/241/3.73 gear's.

I was on my way to tow my Trailblazer home, I figured, if I can get a 3/4 ton truck, I'll use that to pull it lol. Guy said it ran well, 4x4 worked, maybe needed a brake line, seemed to have a slow leak, nothing else out of the oridinary except the dinged up panels.

Jokes on me, got there, thing wouldn't start, wouldn't jump.




Pretty banged up,



Probably due to the rear brake line being plugged with JB Weld, and the front bleeder's busted off so they can't be bled

In spite of all that, the guy was up to let me test drive it with his kids running around the thing. I had a good clue when it wouldn't even hold itself in gear at idle.

Further investigation showed the fram was cracked on both sides, fresh fluid in the master, but no evidence of leaks.

Whatever, so haggling, and at a heavily discounted price I drove it up onto the trailer.

My FJC was somewhat unhappy, but it's gotta work if it want's to eat.



I love these batteries, bought one on the way home to ease moving it about.



Got it home, looks ok from here lol,



This is no fun,



He gave me a whole front clip, so I started on tearing it down,





We'll see if this holds or if it need's plating.





My GF will not drive/ride in a white vehicle.. Whatever..



Life has been hard on Pigpen.







Pretty yellow...



Dried a little more muted,



I had a ton of orange peel and trash from painting it outside,



Other side of the frame seems to be cracked worse?



Ficksed,



I have it all wet sanded and buffed with cutting compound, so it looks like a banana now lol, I need to polish it this weekend.



That pretty much brings us up to date on Pigpen.
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Old June 23rd, 2016, 02:01 AM   #2
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That frame needs plating. I would just do it now and avoid the headache later
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Yeah that weld won't stop the cracking IMO. Did you drill holes on each end of the crack to stop it from spreading?
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Nice truck, it's definitely got the potential. That crack though.
You can check replacement frame parts for your 98 Truck here: http://www.carid.com/1998-chevy-ck-p...s-frames-body/

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Yeah that weld won't stop the cracking IMO. Did you drill holes on each end of the crack to stop it from spreading?
Well I'm mainly counting on the fact that the plow is off the front of it now to stop the cracking.

But yes, I did drill and grind it. If it continues to spread, I can plate it later. The only thing hanging on it now is the bumper and core support, all the suspension is behind it.

It was two cracks BTW, one on each side, I'm guessing from the plow he had on it.

So while it's just a work Truck I want to look OK from five feet and run reliably, if I put a solid axle in it, I'll plate that part of the frame.

I'm trying to keep this simple though lol, I have enough projects now.

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I'm by no means a professional, nor have I fixed a cracked frame

But, what the hell is up with welds? They look like you welded it with two car batteries and a pair of jumper cables. I may not be an expert, but I give it about 3 months before the welds crack and the frame gets worse. Especially the crack that was pulled apart already.

The bitching aside, looked like a good project to start from. I kinda dig the yellow has the "F you, I do what I want" vibe going.
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Lol, I'll mark my calendar. I'm clearly no professional either, I don't even know how to stack dimes, or whatever is cool over on Pirate nowadays. If it fails or if it holds, I'll learn something.

I've been wrong before, but that part of the frame supports nothing but the bumper, so, if it cracks, it will be because I hit something, and then I won't care the the frame cracked again, because I love have a giant dent in the front of my truck
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Lol, I'll mark my calendar. I'm clearly no professional either, I don't even know how to stack dimes, or whatever is cool over on Pirate nowadays. If it fails or if it holds, I'll learn something.

I've been wrong before, but that part of the frame supports nothing but the bumper, so, if it cracks, it will be because I hit something, and then I won't care the the frame cracked again, because I love have a giant dent in the front of my truck
fuck....that's the best response i've heard

Carry on sir. I shall STFU lol
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fuck....that's the best response i've heard

Carry on sir. I shall STFU lol
I like to learn lol, and I do have some 1/4 plate just for this if necessary, but the factory undercoating sucks, so I'll let it ride for now.

This weekend I did front brakes, Amazon for AcDelco was the same price as Duracrap even eating all the core charges. Which is nice, because I really hate answering all those stupid questions just to get the wrong part.

I got rid of the ABS as well, it looked complicated, and I didn't feel like messing with trying to bleed it, and it's probably not in great shape. So I did copper/nickel line and a tee. When i do the rear, I'll finish the ABS delete fully.

It shifts ridiculously hard, I'll have to climb under and examine the wiring and whatnot, I know it's a mess under there. I ran it up to 65-ish though, I do have all four gears, and no crazy death wobbles or anything. A ridiculous amount of steering play for some reason, even though visually everything looks good under there.
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The steering wandering is probably a worn out idler arm.
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The steering wandering is probably a worn out idler arm.
Is there a way to check it? Because I've had my GF crank the wheel back and forth while I looked and didn't see anything obvious, and I pried on the tires with a pry bar and nothing was obviously sloppy either.

Or is it one of those deals that just isn't obvious?
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Just go under the truck and grab it and wiggle it around. It looks like a pitman arm with no steering box. It will be on the passenger side.
Any play in it means it needs to be replaced.
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Steering play an the Era Chevy might need a gearbox.
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Steering play an the Era Chevy might need a gearbox.
You can always try and tighten the preload screw on the top of the box too.
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You can always try and tighten the preload screw on the top of the box too.
Did that on my ZJ after I replaced all the steering components. It helped a ton.

Also check the intermediate shaft, if that u joint is wasted it'll have a lot of play in the steering wheel.
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Just go under the truck and grab it and wiggle it around. It looks like a pitman arm with no steering box. It will be on the passenger side.
Any play in it means it needs to be replaced.
It doesn't have any play, it's also been replaced as well as the bracket at some point fairly recently.

It seems like it need's a box, nothing under it has any visible play.
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It doesn't have any play, it's also been replaced as well as the bracket at some point fairly recently.

It seems like it need's a box, nothing under it has any visible play.
You can adjust the steering box, and again, check your intermediate shaft u joint for play. It's the shaft the connects your steering column to the steering box.
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You can adjust the steering box, and again, check your intermediate shaft u joint for play. It's the shaft the connects your steering column to the steering box.
I have checked the intermediate shaft as well, which is why I've narrowed it down to the box, like I said, NOTHING under it has any visible play sitting on the ground and cranking the wheel back and forth, or jacvked up and pulling on the tries at 3 and 9, or prying under them with a 3' prybar.

Unless there's some other way to check these thing's for play than visually, and as I've described.

But, one way or another it'll get dealt with when it's time lol.
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Unplugged the steering sensor today, took it for another ride, no more wandering. What a stupid idea.

Now it's just ridiculously over boosted lol. I ordered the delete kit.

And, I'm basically finished sanding/polishing, looks good enough for a work truck,

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Well, i had three day's off, so of course, I worked on my Pigpen truck, at least until the PO curse bit me again.

ABS gone,




Giant mess of poo,



Driverside torn down,



Rustoleum Pro spray bombed after a light scrapping/blasting.




The Previous owner curse... The driver's side had all four bolts, finger tight. Passenger is three oversized bolts, drilled an sort of tapped holes, and one busted corner. Not sure with I prefer.. On the bright side, that hub sounded like it had been lubed with gravel, so i don't feel so bad about having to order a new one.




Here's the driver's side all back together,




I tried some aircraft stripper on my rail caps,



They were way too pitted, so out came the sand,



That worked way better,




I did this wheel also,




Then cleared it, looks ok,



That's all until my new hub shows this week.
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