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Old August 16th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #21
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Old August 16th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #22
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I wish I would have took pics of the filter from my car.. 500 miles, cut open with a real oil filter cutter... The paper filter ends we're rolled over and you could visually see that the oil was taking the path of least resistance thru this channel with zero filtration.. They can tour that place till the cows come home.. I stick with wix

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Old August 16th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #23
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I wish I would have took pics of the filter from my car.. 500 miles, cut open with a real oil filter cutter... The paper filter ends we're rolled over and you could visually see that the oil was taking the path of least resistance thru this channel with zero filtration.. They can tour that place till the cows come home.. I stick with wix

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Old August 16th, 2012, 04:24 PM   #24
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The partsmaster oil filters are actually really good, up there with puralotor, but not as good as wix, and are under $3 for most numbers. Fram is junk, I was told most turbo cars say do not use fram right in the owners manual.
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The partsmaster oil filters are actually really good, up there with puralotor, but not as good as wix, and are under $3 for most numbers. Fram is junk, I was told most turbo cars say do not use fram right in the owners manual.
I put a lot of Parts Master filters in so that makes me feel better.
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I put a lot of Parts Master filters in so that makes me feel better.
We have cut outs of Fram, Puralator, Wix, and Partsmaster on display. I bet we get at least a person a week who is amazed that they have been putting that junk on their car, its also funny to see the reaction of the hardcore fram guys.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 09:33 PM   #27
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We have cut outs of Fram, Puralator, Wix, and Partsmaster on display. I bet we get at least a person a week who is amazed that they have been putting that junk on their car, its also funny to see the reaction of the hardcore fram guys.
I put Wix on high dollar cars and diesels. I do a loss leader oil change special so I've been using Parts Master because they are local and I can keep my price down using them. If people ask, I always offer the better products for more money. It amazes me how many people will not spend 7-10 bucks on a quality oil filter once every other month for a $15k vehicle.
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I stopped using Fram Filters back in the 90's when the one I pulled off the shelf had the metal punchouts rattling around the bottom of the can. Total crap.
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fram has always been junk! ac delco is very similar inside!
wix is very good. i have heard good things about haistings also.
i cut open many popular brands years ago, it could be different today?
wix makes napa and carquest filters.
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I worked at Decker auto parts in Utica years ago. They had cut away filters and the Fram was indeed poopy. The Wix looked to be awesome.
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So I rebuilt the engine in the daily driver (04 Grand Prix GTP)

Anyway, Filled it up with VR1 racing oil and a nice and shiny brand new fram ultra guard filter.. Well after 500 miles I changed the oil and I cut the oil filter open to check the filter element for particles. When the HELL did FRAM filters go to total cheap ass piece of shits??? There is this cheap ass extremely thin piece of metal down the center and no metal ends... It's all paper element which is also thinner then it ever has been... The Paper Element ends weren't rounded over not sealing shit so they just let everything by...

I bought 2 wix filters and cut one open before I put it on the car and it looked just like I'm used too.. Nice metal ends on the filter element.. Nice thick, very bonded filter element... I wouldn't put a new fram on a f'in Lawn Mower... Maybe they're racing HP1/HP4's are still built good but they're standard extra guards are JUNK

Maybe this is a re post but I just wanted to let everyone know.. I still have a new fram filter, a used wix filter, and a new mopar filter.. I'll see if I can get some time to cut them apart so people can see what I'm talking about..

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You must be new to cars or the internet, because this has been known for AT LEAST 10 years or so now!

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