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Old August 16th, 2012, 11:53 AM   #1
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So I rebuilt the engine in the daily driver (04 Grand Prix GTP)

Anyway, Filled it up with VR1 racing oil and a nice and shiny brand new fram ultra guard filter.. Well after 500 miles I changed the oil and I cut the oil filter open to check the filter element for particles. When the HELL did FRAM filters go to total cheap ass piece of shits??? There is this cheap ass extremely thin piece of metal down the center and no metal ends... It's all paper element which is also thinner then it ever has been... The Paper Element ends weren't rounded over not sealing shit so they just let everything by...

I bought 2 wix filters and cut one open before I put it on the car and it looked just like I'm used too.. Nice metal ends on the filter element.. Nice thick, very bonded filter element... I wouldn't put a new fram on a f'in Lawn Mower... Maybe they're racing HP1/HP4's are still built good but they're standard extra guards are JUNK

Maybe this is a re post but I just wanted to let everyone know.. I still have a new fram filter, a used wix filter, and a new mopar filter.. I'll see if I can get some time to cut them apart so people can see what I'm talking about..

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Old August 16th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #2
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this has been a long ongoing discussion on the f150.net forum. guys were saying fram filters were junk and causing oil issues with the mod motors. i always ran fram until then now i run motorcraft or wix
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Old August 16th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #3
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Fram has ways been junk. I run wix. Or k&n in my Duramax. Carquest house brand filters are wix as well
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Old August 16th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #4
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You mean the cheapest filter on the shelf is garbage? No fucking way...
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I normally run Fram filters. Looks like I am going to run Wix now.
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There "Extra Guard" or whatever you call it isn't the cheapest on the shelf... It was .75 more per filter than the WIX filters I just bought
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Yup i think read somewhere that Cummins has a list of filters it doesn't want on their engines and Fran appears on it. The reason is the filter material can dislodge and clog the piston cooling nozzles. So yes, they're sheit..
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Old August 16th, 2012, 12:54 PM   #8
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factory filters are good quality
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There was a thread on this over at wranglerforum a while back. Look it up - some auto journalists toured Fram's R&D/Testing facility and, surprisingly, their filters seem to be decent nowadays. The paper endcap issue is addressed in that thread.
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Have you ever tested a Mobile 1 filter?

They are pricey and the parts store claims they are as good as Wix. Thoughts?
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If you search for" the best oil filter" you will find a writeup by a guy who bought every brand of filter he could find and cut them apart.The results are very interesting.
I always run purolater,wix,or napa gold.
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All napas filters are made by wix.
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if you search for" the best oil filter" you will find a writeup by a guy who bought every brand of filter he could find and cut them apart.the results are very interesting.
I always run purolater,wix,or napa gold.
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Off the topic of the filter, I was always told not to run synthetic oil while breaking in a new/rebuilt engine. Something about the lower friction won't allow the rings to seat properly. 500 miles was what I was told was the point it was okay to start running synthetic.

Just something I thought of.

I too have heard that Fram filters suck nowadays. I run the mobil 1 filters on my truck.
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I have a conversion kit that eleminates the expensive spin on oil filters being shoved down our throats by the Illuminati. My system uses a canister that holds a roll of toilet paper. After using oil that can only be bought from a distributor that operates out of his home, I change everything after 25k miles putting a fresh roll of TP in the canister. I have an oil pressure gauge at the inlet pipe so I can read true oil pressure, the the one that lies to you from the factory. I use my vehicle to distribute pamples about how the Illuminati wants to be a world power, pamplets that explain to people my right to carry assult weapons into courthouses, and pamplets on my right to secede from the Government yet still consume local resources without paying anything. With my anti-Illuminati filter sytem, I only have to replace my motor about once a year. Fuck the Illuminati.
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I had test chart sent to me a while back grading all the different oil filters. Couldn't find the picture I saved, but a quick Google search found me the same chart copied on some GM Truck site. Interesting stuff... and everyone (not sure if on the linked site- I only found it for the chart) was saying how bad Fram filters are.

http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articl...gradesheet.htm
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I have a conversion kit that eleminates the expensive spin on oil filters being shoved down our throats by the Illuminati. My system uses a canister that holds a roll of toilet paper. After using oil that can only be bought from a distributor that operates out of his home, I change everything after 25k miles putting a fresh roll of TP in the canister. I have an oil pressure gauge at the inlet pipe so I can read true oil pressure, the the one that lies to you from the factory. I use my vehicle to distribute pamples about how the Illuminati wants to be a world power, pamplets that explain to people my right to carry assult weapons into courthouses, and pamplets on my right to secede from the Government yet still consume local resources without paying anything. With my anti-Illuminati filter sytem, I only have to replace my motor about once a year. Fuck the Illuminati.
and still...no one finds you funny
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and still...no one finds you funny
Still wanna cage fight tough guy?

You did say I'm a coward when Steveo and I were working out our marital problems.

Full contact chess? Hogging contest? A round of golf? Other contest to judge superiority?

Seriously, a lot of people enjoy what I post, you just have a bee in your vagina because you are a negative person and need to condescend to make yourself feel better.

If you have a serious beef with me, we can settle this like men without everybody knowing what's going on.

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and still...no one finds you funny
X2 i just feel alot dumber now
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