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jeepinRRT · August 15th, 2012, 05:53 PM

PSA: There is no scientific evidence that moon cycles have any effect on human behavior.

I have some of the dumbest facebook friends ever. No less than two over the past year have made the assertion that their days at work were worse because of the full moon. I kindly say not to worry because there is no correlation, and I am then inundated with anecdotal evidence to the contrary. After exhaustingly citing scientific research in support of my claim, AND to the point that the driving force of their wrong convictions/observations, called confirmation bias; I have come to the conclusion that most people are too dumb to learn.

So take this PSA and spread the word that full moons do not influence behavior, and get the weak minded all worked up. Maybe their heads will explode and all will be well in the world.

Good day

Here is a link to the literature for those who have poor google or database fu. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl...;2C23&as_sdtp=

I did a google scholar search so most of the articles, if not all, should be accessible.

MonkeyBiz · August 15th, 2012, 05:57 PM

Work in EMS for a few years.. you may change your tune.

jeepinRRT · August 15th, 2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBiz

Work in EMS for a few years.. you may change your tune.

I worked in an ED, adult ICU and NICU

Why the hell do you think I researched this topic

I wanted to see if it was true.... turns out..... its not!

MonkeyBiz · August 15th, 2012, 06:05 PM

There is a difference between a hospital setting a EMS field work. You would be amazed the stupid stuff that doesn't go to the ER. I don't doubt that scientific studies dispute it, but it sure seems like the nut cases come out when the moon is full.

jeepinRRT · August 15th, 2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBiz

Work in EMS for a few years.. you may change your tune.

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...6901242?via=sd

About six or eight down on the link I added to the original post.

BlooMule · August 15th, 2012, 06:56 PM

I think maybe the EMS guys see more nutcases during a full moon because nutcases want to use the full moon as an excuse to be bigger nutcases.

I have nothing to back this up other than a gut feeling, which I'm sure there is research to prove that doesn't exist either.

jeepinRRT · August 15th, 2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBiz

There is a difference between a hospital setting a EMS field work. You would be amazed the stupid stuff that doesn't go to the ER. I don't doubt that scientific studies dispute it, but it sure seems like the nut cases come out when the moon is full.

Confirmation bias

Google: confirmation+bias

Jeeper52 · August 15th, 2012, 07:31 PM

My cop friends say that they are alot busier on full moon nights

jeepinRRT · August 15th, 2012, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeper52

My cop friends say that they are alot busier on full moon nights

Your cop friends are a lot like my nurse and EMT friends.... all full of shit.

CSFJ · August 15th, 2012, 07:41 PM

maybe people just use it as an excuse to act stupid, but did the research look at say 911 calls on full moon nights as opposed to non full moons?

jeepinRRT · August 15th, 2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CSFJ

maybe people just use it as an excuse to act stupid, but did the research look at say 911 calls on full moon nights as opposed to non full moons?

Yup

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...47235210000589

CSFJ · August 15th, 2012, 08:38 PM

science takes all the fun out of everything.

jeepinRRT · August 15th, 2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CSFJ

science takes all the fun out of everything.

whiterhino · August 15th, 2012, 08:48 PM

Or maybe a full moon gives better visibility for people to be out doing things..........
I know we are much more likely to be outside later when the moon is out.

Nuggets · August 15th, 2012, 08:52 PM

I'm a critical thinker so I will listen to the scientific findings. The only think I can think of that would contribute to increased activity would be more light at night to be active by. As far as magic moon powers, it's all bullshit.

Whiterhino posted this same information while writing this.

BlooMule · August 15th, 2012, 09:01 PM

My back is hairier during a full moon.

brewmenn · August 15th, 2012, 10:51 PM

So what. Is there any harm in people believing the myth? I can't think of any.

MonkeyBiz · August 15th, 2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brewmenn

So what. Is there any harm in people believing the myth? I can't think of any.

Superstition is what makes the world go 'round.

BlooMule · August 16th, 2012, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBiz

Superstition is what makes the world go 'round.

And here I thought it was residual spin from the formation of the solar system.

Silly me.

curbdog17 · August 16th, 2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyBiz

There is a difference between a hospital setting a EMS field work. You would be amazed the stupid stuff that doesn't go to the ER. I don't doubt that scientific studies dispute it, but it sure seems like the nut cases come out when the moon is full.

I agree, after 13 years of working ER, I would say the full moon brings on some odd stuff.

August 15th, 2012, 05:53 PM	#1
jeepinRRT Senior Member Join Date: 09-13-08 Location: Grand Rapids,MI Posts: 3,490 iTrader: (9)	Full Moon PSA PSA: There is no scientific evidence that moon cycles have any effect on human behavior. I have some of the dumbest facebook friends ever. No less than two over the past year have made the assertion that their days at work were worse because of the full moon. I kindly say not to worry because there is no correlation, and I am then inundated with anecdotal evidence to the contrary. After exhaustingly citing scientific research in support of my claim, AND to the point that the driving force of their wrong convictions/observations, called confirmation bias; I have come to the conclusion that most people are too dumb to learn. So take this PSA and spread the word that full moons do not influence behavior, and get the weak minded all worked up. Maybe their heads will explode and all will be well in the world. Good day Here is a link to the literature for those who have poor google or database fu. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl...;2C23&as_sdtp= I did a google scholar search so most of the articles, if not all, should be accessible. Last edited by jeepinRRT; August 15th, 2012 at 06:04 PM.

August 15th, 2012, 06:56 PM	#6
BlooMule Devout Atheist Join Date: 11-08-05 Location: A little North of Deetroit and a little South of Roseville Posts: 18,840 iTrader: (11)	I think maybe the EMS guys see more nutcases during a full moon because nutcases want to use the full moon as an excuse to be bigger nutcases. I have nothing to back this up other than a gut feeling, which I'm sure there is research to prove that doesn't exist either. __________________ Don't die a virgin, there are terrorists up there waiting for you!

August 15th, 2012, 08:48 PM	#14
whiterhino I'm not old, honest... Join Date: 03-07-06 Location: Davisburg MI Posts: 16,689 iTrader: (16)	Or maybe a full moon gives better visibility for people to be out doing things.......... I know we are much more likely to be outside later when the moon is out. __________________ GLFWDA member since 1979. Member Southern Michigan Rock Crawlers.

August 15th, 2012, 09:01 PM	#16
BlooMule Devout Atheist Join Date: 11-08-05 Location: A little North of Deetroit and a little South of Roseville Posts: 18,840 iTrader: (11)	My back is hairier during a full moon. __________________ Don't die a virgin, there are terrorists up there waiting for you!

August 15th, 2012, 05:57 PM	#2
MonkeyBiz Master Cocksman Join Date: 11-06-05 Location: Whitehall Posts: 7,002 iTrader: (10)	Work in EMS for a few years.. you may change your tune.

August 15th, 2012, 06:05 PM	#4
MonkeyBiz Master Cocksman Join Date: 11-06-05 Location: Whitehall Posts: 7,002 iTrader: (10)	There is a difference between a hospital setting a EMS field work. You would be amazed the stupid stuff that doesn't go to the ER. I don't doubt that scientific studies dispute it, but it sure seems like the nut cases come out when the moon is full.

August 15th, 2012, 07:31 PM	#8
Jeeper52 Budget, what budget? Join Date: 08-27-11 Location: windsor ontario Posts: 675 iTrader: (4)	My cop friends say that they are alot busier on full moon nights

August 15th, 2012, 07:41 PM	#10
CSFJ Senior Member Join Date: 07-12-11 Location: somewhat north of the D Posts: 132 iTrader: (0)	maybe people just use it as an excuse to act stupid, but did the research look at say 911 calls on full moon nights as opposed to non full moons?

August 15th, 2012, 08:38 PM	#12
CSFJ Senior Member Join Date: 07-12-11 Location: somewhat north of the D Posts: 132 iTrader: (0)	science takes all the fun out of everything.

August 15th, 2012, 08:52 PM	#15
Nuggets Professional Pisser Offer Join Date: 09-15-06 Location: Bay City, MI Posts: 12,868 iTrader: (12)	I'm a critical thinker so I will listen to the scientific findings. The only think I can think of that would contribute to increased activity would be more light at night to be active by. As far as magic moon powers, it's all bullshit. Whiterhino posted this same information while writing this.

August 15th, 2012, 10:51 PM	#17
brewmenn Grumpy old man. Join Date: 11-05-05 Location: Inkster, MI/ Darien, IL Posts: 9,536 iTrader: (9)	So what. Is there any harm in people believing the myth? I can't think of any.