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knaffie · August 13th, 2012, 04:05 PM

I don't really want to carry one of these on my buggy. I have no good place to put it, and they're huge, heavy, and another thing to rattle.

I don't really see many buggies carrying them, but I assume they all keep a means to change a tire with them. What is everybody carrying instead? One of my friends just drives up on a tree, rock, or whatever until the flat tire hangs, then he changes it.

tcxtreme1000 · August 13th, 2012, 04:12 PM

Airbag. If you carry a compressor or a power tank.

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Ebs · August 13th, 2012, 04:27 PM

knaffie · August 13th, 2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebs

I might as well just get a hi-lift as one of those.

silveradoboy · August 13th, 2012, 04:35 PM

How about one of these? They work awesome!
http://www.tractorsupply.com/powerbu...-stand-1160455

jerm97xj · August 13th, 2012, 04:39 PM

What about one of those ARB air bags u connect to the exhaust hose?

http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-r...uipment/jacks/

knaffie · August 13th, 2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by silveradoboy

How about one of these? They work awesome!
http://www.tractorsupply.com/powerbu...-stand-1160455

Never seen anything like that before.

silveradoboy · August 13th, 2012, 04:41 PM

Its cool. We use them all of the time offroad. Size of a standard jackstand as well!

Mihlfeldl2005 · August 13th, 2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jerm97xj

What about one of those ARB air bags u connect to the exhaust hose?

http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-r...uipment/jacks/

That's a sweet idea! although you're completely screwed if you have an exhaust leak AND a flat

knaffie · August 13th, 2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jerm97xj

What about one of those ARB air bags u connect to the exhaust hose?

http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-r...uipment/jacks/

Obviously I could be concerned about it popping. I never get flats in the sand, but always in the rocks.

yyj87 · August 13th, 2012, 04:56 PM

My tool kit always has my ryobi 1/2" cordless impact, last year I took a factory jeep bottle/screw jack abomination and welded a 3/8"" drive 7/16" socket to the little slot deal the factory jack has on it. The impact with an adapter and the jack make lifting/lowering tires/jeep FAST and simple. A 6"x6"x10" chunk of pine gives me plenty of height. All of the above fits in my 12"x12"x24" tool box.

Best of all its cheep and easy to replace if lost broken (except the impact but a regular 3/8 drive ratchet would work fine.

I keep $100 worth of tools in my heep when I wheel (excluding impact) and Im yet to be presented with a broken part on the trail/camping I can replace.

Yes I'm a cheep bastard that spends as little money on things like this as possible!

knaffie · August 13th, 2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yyj87

My tool kit always has my ryobi 1/2" cordless impact, last year I took a factory jeep bottle/screw jack abomination and welded a 3/8"" drive 7/16" socket to the little slot deal the factory jack has on it. The impact with an adapter and the jack make lifting/lowering tires/jeep FAST and simple. A 6"x6"x10" chunk of pine gives me plenty of height. All of the above fits in my 12"x12"x24" tool box.

Best of all its cheep and easy to replace if lost broken (except the impact but a regular 3/8 drive ratchet would work fine.

I keep $100 worth of tools in my heep when I wheel (excluding impact) and Im yet to be presented with a broken part on the trail/camping I can replace.

Spending

I'm thinking a scissor jack is a pretty good idea too. Small, light, lifts pretty high. Thanks for the great idea. That's a great reason to keep a cordless impact on board.

yyj87 · August 13th, 2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by knaffie

I'm thinking a scissor jack is a pretty good idea too. Small, light, lifts pretty high. Thanks for the great idea. That's a great reason to keep a cordless impact on board.

The impact makes short work of just about anything, best $100 I have spent on tools in the last 5 years. With the lithium batts It has more balls then my craftsman impact at 110 psi.

The only thing I don't like about the jeep scissor jack is that in a precarious situation there easy to bend. The grand Cherokee jack I have is only 1.5" shorter than a scissor jack at full length and its half the size when compressed.

I don't know how far away you are but I have a few of the bottle jacks lying around if you need one.

cerial · August 13th, 2012, 07:37 PM

My dad has a 20 ton porta power which I have borrowed a few times. It is actually a fairly expensive one with many attachments. It fits in more spaces then a hy lift jack while giving tons of lifting capability.

I imagine it could be used in a recovery to get someone out of a rolled rig and into someones truck in a pinch also.

Tab · August 13th, 2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by silveradoboy

How about one of these? They work awesome!
http://www.tractorsupply.com/powerbu...-stand-1160455

I've carried one of these for years now and it's awesome. A high lift has its purpose but for changing a tire it sucks, especially on a rig with lots of travel, so then your stuck chain binding the axle to the frame. Not with the jack/jack stand combo. Plus it has a nice big flat base for sand and snow.

wadey · August 13th, 2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by silveradoboy

How about one of these? They work awesome!
http://www.tractorsupply.com/powerbu...-stand-1160455

Yup that's the jack our group uses its great! Its base is stable enough that I feel comfortable to work underneath a rig on the trail with it, unlike a high lift.

Bones · August 13th, 2012, 09:45 PM

just run Maxxis tires, you don't even need a spare

I use a high lift to change tires inthe pit, but I can put the high lift right on the axle tube.

I carry a small scissor jack and wooden block for a spacer for long races

knaffie · August 14th, 2012, 06:31 AM

Thanks for all the ideas everybody.

Haggar · August 14th, 2012, 10:18 AM

Any type of small scissor or bottle jack works well. Make it kinda modular for easier storage. Make a stable base, then you have the jack itself, and then also what I like on a bottle jack is to make a slip-on top to make it safer. A piece of tube that slips on over the top of the ram, with a U shape on it to hook nicely on an axle tube or frame rail or body tube, etc.

yyj87 · August 14th, 2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Haggar

Any type of small scissor or bottle jack works well. Make it kinda modular for easier storage. Make a stable base, then you have the jack itself, and then also what I like on a bottle jack is to make a slip-on top to make it safer. A piece of tube that slips on over the top of the ram, with a U shape on it to hook nicely on an axle tube or frame rail or body tube, etc.

I have a little pce of 4" pipe i think ill make a little cradle tonight! Great idea

August 13th, 2012, 04:05 PM	#1
knaffie Senior Member Join Date: 01-13-08 Location: home is where I hang my hat Posts: 1,520 iTrader: (11)	alternative to carrying a hi-lift on a buggy? I don't really want to carry one of these on my buggy. I have no good place to put it, and they're huge, heavy, and another thing to rattle. I don't really see many buggies carrying them, but I assume they all keep a means to change a tire with them. What is everybody carrying instead? One of my friends just drives up on a tree, rock, or whatever until the flat tire hangs, then he changes it.

August 13th, 2012, 09:45 PM	#17
Bones skillicous Join Date: 11-06-05 Location: Dearborn Heights, MI Posts: 10,642 iTrader: (32)	just run Maxxis tires, you don't even need a spare I use a high lift to change tires inthe pit, but I can put the high lift right on the axle tube. I carry a small scissor jack and wooden block for a spacer for long races __________________ Inviscid Motorsports Special Thanks and Recommendations to; Motorcity Machines Ironman Offroad Branik Motorsports Maxxis Tires Raceline Wheels PAC Racing Springs Joint Clutch and Gear

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tcxtreme1000 Mud Slut-Hit Every Hole!! Join Date: 01-25-06 Location: Traverse City Posts: 1,779 iTrader: (12)	Airbag. If you carry a compressor or a power tank. Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

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August 13th, 2012, 04:39 PM	#6
jerm97xj I fixed it!!! Join Date: 01-11-11 Location: Birch Run MI Posts: 716 iTrader: (7)	What about one of those ARB air bags u connect to the exhaust hose? http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-r...uipment/jacks/

August 13th, 2012, 04:56 PM	#11
yyj87 Senior Member Join Date: 04-10-10 Location: Traverse city(Silver Lake) Posts: 1,529 iTrader: (1)	My tool kit always has my ryobi 1/2" cordless impact, last year I took a factory jeep bottle/screw jack abomination and welded a 3/8"" drive 7/16" socket to the little slot deal the factory jack has on it. The impact with an adapter and the jack make lifting/lowering tires/jeep FAST and simple. A 6"x6"x10" chunk of pine gives me plenty of height. All of the above fits in my 12"x12"x24" tool box. Best of all its cheep and easy to replace if lost broken (except the impact but a regular 3/8 drive ratchet would work fine. I keep $100 worth of tools in my heep when I wheel (excluding impact) and Im yet to be presented with a broken part on the trail/camping I can replace. Yes I'm a cheep bastard that spends as little money on things like this as possible!

August 13th, 2012, 07:37 PM	#14
cerial Insomniac Join Date: 09-06-08 Location: Middleville,MI/Newburgh,NY Posts: 1,363 iTrader: (2)	My dad has a 20 ton porta power which I have borrowed a few times. It is actually a fairly expensive one with many attachments. It fits in more spaces then a hy lift jack while giving tons of lifting capability. I imagine it could be used in a recovery to get someone out of a rolled rig and into someones truck in a pinch also.

August 14th, 2012, 06:31 AM	#18
knaffie Senior Member Join Date: 01-13-08 Location: home is where I hang my hat Posts: 1,520 iTrader: (11)	Thanks for all the ideas everybody.

August 14th, 2012, 10:18 AM	#19
Haggar Covered in mud... Join Date: 11-06-05 Location: Oxford, MI Posts: 16,813 iTrader: (48)	Any type of small scissor or bottle jack works well. Make it kinda modular for easier storage. Make a stable base, then you have the jack itself, and then also what I like on a bottle jack is to make a slip-on top to make it safer. A piece of tube that slips on over the top of the ram, with a U shape on it to hook nicely on an axle tube or frame rail or body tube, etc.