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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:01 PM   #1
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Angry I need to vent a little on a trade I made(long post)

First and for most, I know its my fault for not looking closer and taking this guys word.

I recently traded my Dodge stratus for a dodge ram 4x4 with a member on here, between emails and texts I explained that my car needed two frt tires and it has a small leak some where in the brakes because it would loose brake fluid over a period of 30 days or so. I included all new rear brakes wheel cylinders and hardware, I have never done rear brakes So I threw in the parts.

I also explained it might need a tie rod because the way the tires were wearing un-even in the frt, but other then that the car drove perfect. I am 100% honest when I make a deal so there is no surprises.

Well the other guy tells me that the truck needs a starter and a possible power steering pump because its leaking.

Well I really wanted this truck because as my dad was dying from cancer when they were coming out with the ram 1500 and he wanted to get one but he lost the fight, and My friends dad got a hold of one before they were released and drove this exact color and style in my dads funeral (sept 93)


So I tell the guy I am interested and I drive to his house after he refused to meet half way??

So I get there and the truck was running and all looked good from what I saw and it was what the pictures showed.

He tells me he "found" the power steering leak, there was a hole in the hose and it was spitting fluid out as fast as you put it in.

Well because I really wanted this truck, I said ok I will make the trade, so I traded Him my car, a like new leatherman, a Brand New Buck folding hunting knife, a Car gps Unit and $50 cash. I did this because I felt since the tire needed to be replaced it would be fair.

I pull out of the drive way after he left in my car and I man handled the steering since there was no p/s. No big deal.

Well as I am driving down this long dirt raod, it runs drives shifts and I'm like great I got the truck I have always wanted.

I go to stop at the stop light and NO BRAKES, I had to push the pedal with both feet before it stopped(barely) I called him and he said the brakes worked last time he drove it?

Fast forward a few weeks, since I had to take my time looking it over and working on it because of my back and knee injury I move a little slower then most.

I replace the the power steering hose, and its working fine, well I look into the brakes and I end up having to replace frt calipers, (right side was seized), one of the metal lines going to the right frt and the rubber line in the right frt.

Well since it didn't have power steering, i didn't notice until I got under there, that the ball joints are shot, all the tie rods are shot, the left side u-joint was about to fall out. So I know buyer beware, but there is no way the trader didnt know about this.

I have called a few times, emailed and texted, and he swears that he didnt know all this was wrong.

So I proposed that he give me all the stuff back and the $50 cash, so I can sell the stuff and use the money for the parts and I would be happy.

Well He said that he wasn't aware of anything wrong with the truck and haven't heard a word since.

I know you win some you loose some one, but I just want people to know that you cant trust people like you think you can. I have had so many great transactions with people from here and met a lot of great people, so I felt I could take his word, well I was wrong.

Sorry for the long post but it has been eating inside me for awhile, and since I am all jacked up with injuries and the wife in school full time I have to get parts here and there, so I wont be driving it anytime soon, and that's the part the pisses me off, he could have just been up frt and honest.

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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:11 PM   #2
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You had a chance to look it over. You made the trade. Somebody always is on the loosing end of a deal. The trick is making sure it isn't you. You failed.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:23 PM   #3
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This is why I fear even thinking about trading anything.
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Why the hell didn't you test drive it before the trade?

And i just had my 1st shitty deal with a member here, but I'm not going to bother making a thread, he knows he sucks.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:44 PM   #5
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I would have test drove it first and got under to inspect all these items.

. . . . That and you are assuming he knew about the front end issues.
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From the sound of that story, I don't see why you are making a thread. Sorry
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Iíve known people that have driven around with those type of issues with their vehicles and not known it.
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Wow tuff crowd, I guess I just am pissed at my self for taking someones word.

I know its my fault for not looking it over and such, but there is no way this guy didn't know about some of this stuff.

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if I'm looking to trade/sell a $2,000 car, I'm just going to assume that any like valued vehicle is also a heap.

sorry it wasn't what you thought it would, could, or should be - cest la vie
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 03:02 PM   #12
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I agree, its why I hate selling anything. Everything we all sell here is as-is. I always try my best to list accurately, but what if its a vehicle that sat for 6 months, and something rusted or stuck or whatever in that 6 months. I have that happen with linkages, brakes, wheel bearing, etc, all too often. Like bruce said, sometimes you don't know. An engine could run decently, but have some major wear, or an axle could have a bad u joint, twisted splines, broken tooth, bearing wear, contaminated fluid, but if its not opened, you'd never know.
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sometimes when buying/trading like that you can get the short end of the stick even on here and end up eating a shit sandwich.

Bought a truck off here a month or so ago, trans pan was leaking i figured no big deal, shifted smooth when i test drove down the street, but on the way home(3 hr drive and he wouldnt meet me half way eather) the TC started to shudder going up hills pretty bad, but at the time I couldnt figure out what was going on or why it was shaking. Called the guy a few days later and he says it never did it when he had it and "good luck". Got home and drained the pan a few weeks later after trying a few diffrent things and there was a ton of metal shavings in the trans filter. That was my worst fear when buying this truck was that I was gunna have to put a trans in it right away after buying and it happened in less than 1000 miles. Sure Im still sour about having to drop another almost 2 grand into my new to me truck(already replaced wheel hubs and alternator) but really I cant be too mad cause I signed and bought the truck AS-IS and knew the risks involved and proceeded anyways and now I got the short end of the stick. Nothing to do other than eat my sandwich and smile. Never again I can tell you will i trust someones word.. If someone wants 5 grand or more from me Im gunna put some miles on it before hand to know what im buying or no sale.

When buying a dodge, front end parts and transmissions are usally the problem areas so that should have been the first thing you looked at or checked... not that im saying he didnt take you for a ride on this but you have to go though them with a fine tooth comb and make a decision and stick with it.
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i thought they were taking it easy on you so far.
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Wow tuff crowd, I guess I just am pissed at my self for taking someones word.

I know its my fault for not looking it over and such, but there is no way this guy didn't know about some of this stuff.

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You haven't been called a fucking idiot yet so I would say the worst may still be to come.

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You can't buy a vehicle from a guy that drove it around with no brakes and steering and not be surprised that other components have been neglected.
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nobody in their right mind would want a dodge stratus in the first place, you got the truck that you wanted and it needs TYPICAL repair. EVERY truck usually needs those things replaced at one point or another. I gurantee your track bar is shot too. Fix them in order of safety concern and before too long you will be a happy camper.
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You can't buy a vehicle from a guy that drove it around with no brakes and steering and not be surprised that other components have been neglected.
Yes, yes you can. Then you just throw in a couple health issues that everybody is aware of because you mention it in almost every thread, a cancer stricken relative, and how you added your favorite possesions to sweeten the pot (something tells me the guy didn't want a straight up trade because his car sucked so bad) and sit back an watch the sympathy poor in.

Now don't get me wrong. I get being chronically ill sucks, I get having relatives die from cancer sucks but trying to use that as an excuse as to why everbody should feel sorry for you when you screw the pooch on a purchase is getting overly played out.


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I recently traded my Dodge stratus for a dodge ram 4x4 with a member on here, between emails and texts I explained that my car needed two frt tires and it has a small leak some where in the brakes because it would loose brake fluid over a period of 30 days or so. I included all new rear brakes wheel cylinders and hardware, I have never done rear brakes So I threw in the parts.

I also explained it might need a tie rod because the way the tires were wearing un-even in the frt, but other then that the car drove perfect. I am 100% honest when I make a deal so there is no surprises.

Well the other guy tells me that the truck needs a starter and a possible power steering pump because its leaking.

Well I really wanted this truck because as my dad was dying from cancer when they were coming out with the ram 1500 and he wanted to get one but he lost the fight, and My friends dad got a hold of one before they were released and drove this exact color and style in my dads funeral (sept 93)


So I tell the guy I am interested and I drive to his house after he refused to meet half way??

So I get there and the truck was running and all looked good from what I saw and it was what the pictures showed.

He tells me he "found" the power steering leak, there was a hole in the hose and it was spitting fluid out as fast as you put it in.

Well because I really wanted this truck, I said ok I will make the trade, so I traded Him my car, a like new leatherman, a Brand New Buck folding hunting knife, a Car gps Unit and $50 cash. I did this because I felt since the tire needed to be replaced it would be fair.

I pull out of the drive way after he left in my car and I man handled the steering since there was no p/s. No big deal.

Well as I am driving down this long dirt raod, it runs drives shifts and I'm like great I got the truck I have always wanted.

I go to stop at the stop light and NO BRAKES, I had to push the pedal with both feet before it stopped(barely) I called him and he said the brakes worked last time he drove it?

Fast forward a few weeks, since I had to take my time looking it over and working on it because of my back and knee injury I move a little slower then most.

I replace the the power steering hose, and its working fine, well I look into the brakes and I end up having to replace frt calipers, (right side was seized), one of the metal lines going to the right frt and the rubber line in the right frt.

Well since it didn't have power steering, i didn't notice until I got under there, that the ball joints are shot, all the tie rods are shot, the left side u-joint was about to fall out. So I know buyer beware, but there is no way the trader didnt know about this.

I have called a few times, emailed and texted, and he swears that he didnt know all this was wrong.

So I proposed that he give me all the stuff back and the $50 cash, so I can sell the stuff and use the money for the parts and I would be happy.

Well He said that he wasn't aware of anything wrong with the truck and haven't heard a word since.

I know you win some you loose some one, but I just want people to know that you cant trust people like you think you can. I have had so many great transactions with people from here and met a lot of great people, so I felt I could take his word, well I was wrong.

Sorry for the long post but it has been eating inside me for awhile, and since I am all jacked up with injuries and the wife in school full time I have to get parts here and there, so I wont be driving it anytime soon, and that's the part the pisses me off, he could have just been up frt and honest.

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I don't have a issue with parts needing to be replaced and maintenance needing to be done, as I expected that. I just get pissed because he "sold" me on the truck on how well it ran and there was no issues other then the "starter" which was a loose ground wire and the p/s line. He told me he stopped driving it because of gas prices and he wanted to get a car for his daughter.

You have to expect that there are going to be underlying issues but dam the whole frt end, i just find that hard to believe that he didn't know anything about it and with the power steering not working there really was no way to tell.

Again i know its my fault for not looking into it closer, but I am just trying to let people know learn from me and don't take peoples word.
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They are both used pile of shits. Quit being a whiny little bitch you failed to look over the truck. There for its all on you I feel he owes you nada. Man up fix the truck or sell it and don't publicly whine about your bad choices.
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