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Old July 14th, 2012, 02:37 PM   #41
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Shop with local companies. I deal with rocksolid performance in cedar springs. I believe their website will have a shopping cart and a huge selection shortly. Bj, the owner is a second none guy to deal with. I guarantee he will do anything to make sure you are happy with whatever you get. Ironman offroad and jcr are also 2 very reputable shops.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 04:32 PM   #42
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Anybody have exp with the 4dr Wrangler? Think they would work as a combo road/offroad vehicle?
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They would be a great option for you if you can get something in your price range. If you get a 4dr wrangler definatly talk to rocksolid, they build a ton of parts for them.
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They would be a great option for you if you can get something in your price range. If you get a 4dr wrangler definatly talk to rocksolid, they build a ton of parts for them.
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #45
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A Jeep Cherokee (classic) also known as a xj is a very good starting point if you want a very popular 4 door. The parts are cheap and practically every part is replaceable or upgradable. The initial cost is very low also. You can get a dependable driver for less the 4k with some upgrades.

Most come with 30-31" tires but you can mount 33"s on the stock rims without much rubbing. Your imagination is the limit with a xj. There are tons of people that currently own or have had a xj. Realistic fuel mileage will be in the high teens with a automatic and v6. You may do better depending on how you drive.

It will be a good weekend warrior with a solid front axle that can be upgraded. It is not a "rock crawler" or a (deep) mud bogger without heavy mods. But, in stock form it will handle most light trails, sand, and slippery conditions with some good 31-33" rubber under it. They seat 4 comfortably with some room behind the rear seat for some wood, dog, groceries, or whatever. You can always use a trailer for the larger stuff like I said before. The axles can be upgraded but this is not a tow rig by any means due to the uni body.

The Grand Cherokee also known as a zj is bigger then a Cherokee in every way. Bigger engine, stronger, frame, stronger axles, more interior room, and so on. The initial cost will be higher and the mileage will be lower. But, stock to stock the Grand Cherokee is simply better then the Cherokee and is capable of towing light things like quads and civics. For the same amount of money as a ZJ and a little bit if searching you can find a XJ that has been upgraded with lockers and such which will outperform a stock Grand Cherokee while getting better mileage.
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If you have the know how I would make a jeep out of cutting boards or trash cans (the plastic ones) and replace the track bar with a watts link..that way you get the best of both worlds
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A Jeep Cherokee (classic) also known as a xj is a very good starting point if you want a very popular 4 door. The parts are cheap and practically every part is replaceable or upgradable. The initial cost is very low also. You can get a dependable driver for less the 4k with some upgrades.

Most come with 30-31" tires but you can mount 33"s on the stock rims without much rubbing. Your imagination is the limit with a xj. There are tons of people that currently own or have had a xj. Realistic fuel mileage will be in the high teens with a automatic and v6. You may do better depending on how you drive.It will be a good weekend warrior with a solid front axle that can be upgraded. It is not a "rock crawler" or a (deep) mud bogger without heavy mods. But, in stock form it will handle most light trails, sand, and slippery conditions with some good 31-33" rubber under it. They seat 4 comfortably with some room behind the rear seat for some wood, dog, groceries, or whatever. You can always use a trailer for the larger stuff like I said before. The axles can be upgraded but this is not a tow rig by any means due to the uni body.

The Grand Cherokee also known as a zj is bigger then a Cherokee in every way. Bigger engine, stronger, frame, stronger axles, more interior room, and so on. The initial cost will be higher and the mileage will be lower. But, stock to stock the Grand Cherokee is simply better then the Cherokee and is capable of towing light things like quads and civics. For the same amount of money as a ZJ and a little bit if searching you can find a XJ that has been upgraded with lockers and such which will outperform a stock Grand Cherokee while getting better mileage.
I had too...you are too good at this stuff
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A Jeep Cherokee (classic) also known as a xj is a very good starting point if you want a very popular 4 door. The parts are cheap and practically every part is replaceable or upgradable. The initial cost is very low also. You can get a dependable driver for less the 4k with some upgrades.

Most come with 30-31" tires but you can mount 33"s on the stock rims without much rubbing. Your imagination is the limit with a xj. There are tons of people that currently own or have had a xj. Realistic fuel mileage will be in the high teens with a automatic and v6. You may do better depending on how you drive.

It will be a good weekend warrior with a solid front axle that can be upgraded. It is not a "rock crawler" or a (deep) mud bogger without heavy mods. But, in stock form it will handle most light trails, sand, and slippery conditions with some good 31-33" rubber under it. They seat 4 comfortably with some room behind the rear seat for some wood, dog, groceries, or whatever. You can always use a trailer for the larger stuff like I said before. The axles can be upgraded but this is not a tow rig by any means due to the uni body.

The Grand Cherokee also known as a zj is bigger then a Cherokee in every way. Bigger engine, stronger, frame, stronger axles, more interior room, and so on. The initial cost will be higher and the mileage will be lower. But, stock to stock the Grand Cherokee is simply better then the Cherokee and is capable of towing light things like quads and civics. For the same amount of money as a ZJ and a little bit if searching you can find a XJ that has been upgraded with lockers and such which will outperform a stock Grand Cherokee while getting better mileage.
Thanks. It certainly is food for thought. I'll look into those models.
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Thanks. It certainly is food for thought. I'll look into those models.
most of what he wrote is bullshit...FYI
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Thanks. It certainly is food for thought. I'll look into those models.
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