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Old April 6th, 2012, 05:00 AM   #1
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Im thinking about getting a bike towards the end of the month. Im sick of spending $100 a week just to drive to and from work 5 days out of the week. Now i have no experience on a bike at all not even a dirt bike. Im looking at getting new Kawasaki ninja 250. Ive had a few people tell me not to get something that small and that i will want something bigger after a short time. What do you guys that ride think? Im not looking for something that can go 150 or take off fast cause i will just end up getting myself into trouble. Im mainly just looking for the gas millage and something i can go cruise around on a nice day.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 07:05 AM   #2
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If you're getting a bike to save money, do some research first. You have to take a lot of things in consideration. Safety gear isn't cheap, tires aren't cheap, depending on the bike you buy, you could get an Aveo that gets about the same mileage and you would be able to drive it year round. I've read numerous threads where people have kept track of the money they spend on their bikes vs. a car and in the end it doesn't make "financial sense." However many of these people rode bigger bikes.

A Ninja 250, depending on how much you weight can get you 50-60 mpg if you really baby it. If you want to buy brand new, you have the fuel injected CBR250 or TU250X which are supposed to get even better fuel economy. The air cooled 250 cruisers are also supposed to do very well, but are pretty low on power compared to the Ninja/CBR.

My advice? I have a Ninja 250 and KLX250s. I love them. They get good fuel economy and do everything I want them to do. I'm probably an exception to the rule, though. If you're trying to save money, I wouldn't buy anything brand new. I'd recommend taking an MSF course, and trying out their bikes to see what you like.
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My son is taking on of the courses in early May.
We researched the Ninja 250 and the CBR250.
Looks like hes leaning towards the Honda.
I've read alot about both, and it kind of makes me want to get one. Both sound like Fun little bikes. Most reports agree that if you get bored with the small lbike, you're not using it to its potential.

My son is 6'4" but only about 145lbs. surprisingly the bikes fit him fine.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 07:25 AM   #4
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<-- Just sold my Ninja 500 that was my starter bike. While I grew up riding dirt bikes and snowmobiles here and there this was my first street bike. After riding that for a year I'd highly recommend the smaller Ninjas for starter bikes. Cant speak to the 250 but the 500 was just the right for me. Not enough motor to kill me but enough that once I got comfortable I could have some fun with it.

Also handling and comfort (I'm 5'11" and 220lbs) were pretty good. Think I averaged about 45mpg of city riding with a little bit of high speed launches and such mixed in there. Also, that was with the fuel screw turned way up. Didnt find that out until recently when I did a full tune up. Probably could have gotten better mpg after turning it back to where it should have been.

Another nice thing with the Ninja is there was a lot of good repair and tuning info out there. Plenty of them have been sold over the years so parts are pretty easy to find.
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I've had a Harley, a GSXR 750 and a Triumph Speed Triple.

I bought a Ninja 250 for my fiance, and it's probably the funnest bike I've ever ridden. Small, nimble, and (once you're comfortable one it) you can ride it like you stole it, and not really break many laws. My Speed Triple would break the speed limit in first gear, and I could barely keep the front end on the ground WOT.

I would regularly get 50+mpg with "Spirited" riding.

Highly recommended, don't listen to the people that say "Start bigger, you'll get bored." Bigger may be faster, but for a fun little commuter, the Ninja gets it done.

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Thanks for the advice guys. I think that was enough to make up my mind on getting a 250. I will look into the CBR250 too. I figured it would be good to get some advice from people who actually ride or may have or did have the same bike.

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If you're getting a bike to save money, do some research first. You have to take a lot of things in consideration. Safety gear isn't cheap, tires aren't cheap, depending on the bike you buy, you could get an Aveo that gets about the same mileage and you would be able to drive it year round. I've read numerous threads where people have kept track of the money they spend on their bikes vs. a car and in the end it doesn't make "financial sense." However many of these people rode bigger bikes.
Yeah, i know in the long run over time it will need maintenance but im looking more at the week to week savings i guess you could say. Thats one of the reasons im looking at getting a new one vs. a used on that might need to have money put into it a few months down the road.

I wouldnt be caught dead in an Aveo Im a truck guy and hopefully a bike guy soon. Im still keeping my 05 silverado for the occasional rainy day and winter.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 08:03 PM   #7
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You're not going to save any money with a motorcycle. Unless you plan on riding in the rain and cold and strapping groceries to the seat, etc... you will not be riding enough the come out ahead money wise. Trust me.

Get a bike if you want to ride, but don't fool yourself.

Also the only bike I've ever gotten even close to 50mpg is my new kaw. I keep hearing stories of spectacular mileage, but I can't imagine what kind of straigh line, tucked, 55mph for a full tank of fuel, riding you'd have to be doing.

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I would say a CBR1000RR for a starter bike.














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Old April 7th, 2012, 08:14 AM   #9
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You're not going to save any money with a motorcycle. Unless you plan on riding in the rain and cold and strapping groceries to the seat, etc... you will not be riding enough the come out ahead money wise. Trust me.

Get a bike if you want to ride, but don't fool yourself.

Also the only bike I've ever gotten even close to 50mpg is my new kaw. I keep hearing stories of spectacular mileage, but I can't imagine what kind of straigh line, tucked, 55mph for a full tank of fuel, riding you'd have to be doing.
If it gets better than 15mpg i will be happy. Even if it only get 40mpg i will be saving more in gas a week to cover the payment and insurance
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You're assuming that you will ride 5 days per week, which isn't likely unless you are going to ride in the rain. Not many people do. I rode almost all summer in 2010 rain or shine and only laid it down once.

Then in mid summer, aside from rain there are the 95* and humid days when most people either dont ride or they stop wearing gear - who wants to show up to work soaked with sweat with wrinkles pressed into your clothes?

Speaking of gear you should also be spending at least $500 in gear before you hit the road - puts a dent into the fuel savings.
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What would be the maintenance schedule for a new bike. Im assuming oil change every 3-5k. what else im i looking at for maintenance. I drive about 3000 miles in 6 weeks. So it will be used alot other than rainy days.
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I just bought Vstar 650 a little different then what you are looking at, but I bought for the same reasons. I drive a lot, both for work and for personal stuff. Last year when gas prices hit $4 I was paying over $700 a month just going to work and back. I also just like to ride. My first 3 tanks have been 44, 53, and 48 MPG and that is probably harder then I will normally ride it because it's still a new toy to me and I love the sound. Even 40 MPG is fine with me though.
If I park the TJ, I will have to ride 10,000 miles to offset the price of the bike. I was driving about 30,000 a year for work, and I will drive it almost daily except for downpours. That should easily be doable within two years, but even if I don't, I still will enjoy riding the bike for the little amount it cost me.
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The ninja 250 gets a little over 60mpg and tops out around 104mph in 6th gear (It just takes a while to get there). The seat sucks and I like my DRZ400 better but it was a very fun bike while I had it. I rode daily from Chesterfield to Detroit (rain or shine) and put around 6000 miles on it before I traded it in. I think it's a perfect starter bike, good mileage, handles well and can shit and git when you need it to. The only mod I ever did was a larger front sprocket to bring down the RPMs on the highway.
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Whatever you get, I have a nice jacket, helmet and gloves for sale. These are things you will want and should have.

I had a Yamaha FZR600 for my first street bike. It was fun and was great as a first bike. Cheap and not to slow. However I have rode dirt bikes for a few years now too.
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Whatever you get, I have a nice jacket, helmet and gloves for sale. These are things you will want and should have.

I had a Yamaha FZR600 for my first street bike. It was fun and was great as a first bike. Cheap and not to slow. However I have rode dirt bikes for a few years now too.
1993 fzr600(red white and blue) first "real" bike...1993 cbr600(black silver and red) my first second "real" bike...all the way back in 1993!!!
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My 1994 fzr600 went 11.70's at Ubly back then. That was cleaning house at the time
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My 1994 fzr600 went 11.70's at Ubly back then. That was cleaning house at the time
Mine was a 92. Bought it off of joshcripe for 1200 and sold it for 1600.

I didn't think it was good for 11's though, but I never made it to the track. A guy that I rode with often has a 07 monster s4r. He would put maybe 2 lengths on me to 100mph and after that he would just walk away.
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your nuts are gonna hurt so bad after riding to work that much you wont want to work. i had the same plan once. ended up with speeding tickets bad sunburns and sore balls. yamaha v stars are nice comfortable good crusiers
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I didn't read all the posts, but read enough to see you're looking at 250's and just happened along this. Not mine, just saw it online.
http://nmi.craigslist.org/mcy/2944671566.html
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I didn't read all the posts, but read enough to see you're looking at 250's and just happened along this. Not mine, just saw it online.
http://nmi.craigslist.org/mcy/2944671566.html
That's a sharp looking bike. My 82 Suzuki 250 enduro cost me under $700. I figure it's my first bike, first time on a motorcycle. If/when I dump it, there's no plastic to break and it's no big deal. After I get better at riding, then I'll step up to the KLR 650. If you want to peruse gear, check out www.leatherup.com
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