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Old July 3rd, 2012, 04:31 PM   #1
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Default Model Rocket engines in oakland or macomb county?

Anyone know any place in Oakland or MAcomb county that stocks larger model rocket engines?

Specifically, I'm looking for single use G size engines, my local place doesn't stock them, and they have a $25 hazmat fee online.

Looking for some G79 white lightnings preferably.

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LOL....D size isnt good enough for the Hagg ar?
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Give Prop Shop a try in Warren
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 05:42 PM   #4
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I know they have engines but I don't know what sizes.
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Larry's @ m59 and 53?

I know that the big hobby shop between 19mile and m59 on Van Dyke had them at one time...

are you recreating the dateline exploding truck video?
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LOL....D size isnt good enough for the Hagg ar?
These aren't really all that big, 20lb thrust motors. But these are 5-7ft tall, 5" diameter rockets with 2-3lb liftoff weights. The step up to the composite rocket motors is really cool, the sound and smoke are way more than black powder D engines. I don't have my certification, so I can't buy larger than G motors.

We have maybe 15 rockets in the A-D range, then 3 or so of the larger ones. We grew up doing these in school in the 80s, so now we all build and launch them with our kids. rockets in the day and fireworks at night :)



I'll have to call a few of those places. There's lot of places to find A-D, and usually the E black powder estes engines. But not many people carry the Aerotech composite motors.
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E was the biggest thing RC Hobbies ever carried.
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With the cost of commercial motors you should look at casting soem of your own. You ever contact the Team 1 group? Rocket junkies, with the firework builders the rocket guys are kind of the "dark side" fun stuff. You could build a strobe motor, it would look and sound like a pulse jet in flight.
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With the cost of commercial motors you should look at casting soem of your own. You ever contact the Team 1 group? Rocket junkies, with the firework builders the rocket guys are kind of the "dark side" fun stuff. You could build a strobe motor, it would look and sound like a pulse jet in flight.
have thought about either reloadables, or making my own (sugar engines don't seem too tough to make)... but we only fire like 2-3 big ones, once a year.
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If nothing else touch base with these guys. Im sure they could help you out. http://www.team1.org/
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Old July 7th, 2012, 08:43 AM   #12
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You could try calling Great Lakes Hobby and Toy on Old Vandyke just south of M-59
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Maybe Rider's Hobby Shop in Flint? They don't list anything larger than a D (that I see) on their website, but they have a note about hazmat charges for engines over size E. It's been a few months since I was last at the Grand Rapids location and I just didn't look that closely at the rocket motors. I've been thinking about building one though. It's been 10 years since my last.
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Hartland R/C Hobby at M-59 and Old US-23 Has E and F sizes I know he can get the G and H's if wanted but you would have to call and find out.
810-632-0106 Ask for either Doug or Troy.
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So, these guys had some in stock, none of the others I've seen did, so I got 3 of them today. Never used these larger estes motors, but they are supposedly just rebadged aerotechs.

Commonwealth rocketry in Canton also stocks G, and larger high power stuff (J, K, L size stuff), and he is involved with Team 1. Cool guy who bought th eplace but hard to get a hold of.

Here are the G motors, compared with Cs. They are 20 lb thrust motors, about $25 a pop. I need to work on some sugar motors next year.

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How high do these large rockets go? I this something the average Joe with no knowledge could do? This interest me.
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So, these guys had some in stock, none of the others I've seen did, so I got 3 of them today. Never used these larger estes motors, but they are supposedly just rebadged aerotechs.

Commonwealth rocketry in Canton also stocks G, and larger high power stuff (J, K, L size stuff), and he is involved with Team 1. Cool guy who bought th eplace but hard to get a hold of.

Here are the G motors, compared with Cs. They are 20 lb
thrust motors, about $25 a pop. I need to work on some sugar motors next year.


I use to frequent that store back when I was in school. They always had the best stuff in the area. Been years since I have stepped foot in there.
I use to build my own rockets for awhile and dabbled in airplanes. I did build a sweet rocket powered car that worked awesome flying down my side street

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How high do these large rockets go? I this something the average Joe with no knowledge could do? This interest me.
Sure, you just need some space. Start with the little Estes and Quest rockets with A-D engines, learn how the kits work, how they fly. Little rockets with Cs and Ds can go 1200-1800 ft.

You *can* make them go real high with the bigger engines, but I don't have a good place to do that, and like the way we set up ours.

Here's two of the rockets that we are firing with these engines, they are around 3 lbs loaded. Should be going 750-1000ft, but they take off kinda slow, so have a good look as they launch. The red one is home built, the black/flames is an Aerotech Mirage.






Here's a youtube video of a Mirage like mine launching, the black smoke in the exhaust means thats a blackjack or fast jack motor (you can get white or black smoke, and then red, green, blue, violet flames, etc, there are 7 different available propellants.


If you get your Level 1, 2, or 3 certifcations, you can do the big stuff. (Don't aske how much this costs...)

For example, here's a Q motor:

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That Q motor in the video makes 1000 times what my G motors do, about 30,000 lb-ft seconds.

A Level 3 cert lets you get up to an O motor, thats about 2000 lbs of thrust for 5 seconds. This is the kinda stuff you see them play with on mythbusters to launch cars
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I can see this is a hobby I should stay away from. Could someone get in trouble for sending a rocket too high?
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