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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:06 AM   #41
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I know a guy that has a 21' Checkmate with a 350 merc outboard on the back. Holly shit that boat is stupid fast. I fell in love with it two summers ago and have been wanting somthing like it ever since. That 2 stroke did not seem to use very much gas either. Someday... Good luck on your boat hunt. BOAT= Bust Out Another Thousand.
No, no you don't please try again. I hate when people post stupid fucking shit they don't know anything about.

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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #42
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buy this

it'll run into the 80's easily, and can handle up to a 3 ft chop, and is right at home out on the great lakes in a 4 foot swell



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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #43
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How much gas was burned in the 48 seconds of that first video?
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:13 AM   #44
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Does it come with downriggers?
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:14 AM   #45
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How much gas was burned in the 48 seconds of that first video?
In my boat? 2.5 GPH at idle. Approximately 35 GPH at wide open throttle. I usually could get about an overall average of 3-5 mpg if I remember correctly. In scott's boat I am not sure, I think he was running twin 502's with superchargers at a few pounds of boost, somewhere around 1200 hp total (can't really recall). His boat would run up over 100, then again it was also 32 feet with 4 times the horsepower of mine.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:14 AM   #46
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Does it come with downriggers?
sure, let me know which ones you want and I will install 2
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:15 AM   #47
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In my boat? 2.5 GPH at idle. Approximately 35 GPH at wide open throttle. I usually could get about an overall average of 3-5 mpg if I remember correctly.
that's not that bad. The big charter fishermen i used to fuel up got about 3 and didnt go 80.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:17 AM   #48
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that's not that bad. The big charter fishermen i used to fuel up got about 3 and didnt go 80.
wide open I was probably closer to 1-2 miles per gallon, even still, not terrible. My boat was pretty damn efficient, it had only 300ish HP, is 24 ft long, and weighed in around 1900lbs.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:19 AM   #49
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wide open I was probably closer to 1-2 miles per gallon, even still, not terrible. My boat was pretty damn efficient, it had only 300ish HP, is 24 ft long, and weighed in around 1900lbs.
lol, how many engines per hour did it burn.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #50
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lol, how many engines per hour did it burn.
2 engines, 150 hours...
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:49 AM   #51
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lol, how many engines per hour did it burn.
I loled.

I felt bad afterward, but still loled.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:55 AM   #52
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The happiest days of a boat owners life is the day he buys his and the day he sells it. With that being said I have owned a few boat. I started with a fourwinns 245 sundowner. Then to a fourwinns vista 258. Then after that I bought a scareab 34' with twin bbc. Now I have a alumacraft 165. Always had strictly pleasure boats now that I have a fishing boat it's my favorite.
All I can say is for your first boat buy used. Never buy new they loss tons of cash the first year. If you decide it's not your thing you can get close to what you paid used. If you buy new. Say it cost 40k new after a year you might get 25k if your lucky.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:15 AM   #53
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No, no you don't please try again. I hate when people post stupid fucking shit they don't know anything about.
300 merc?
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:24 AM   #54
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250 merc maybe lol. Whatever. It was fast.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:28 AM   #55
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250 merc maybe lol. Whatever. It was fast.


It is a 4 stroke though.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:34 AM   #56
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250 merc maybe lol. Whatever. It was fast.
2.5 merc,probobly.the race versions make over 300 hp. I Love a checkmate with a big merc on the back.Not the nicest boats on the water,but nothing dances on the water like a checkmate at speed.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:35 AM   #57
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I did not read mush of the posts so i'm sorry if i am repeating what someone else said.

I have owned a lot of jet boats(mostly to fix and flip). The seadoo's are nice but very problematic.The older ones with the jet ski engines are a lot of fun but also a lot of money to maintain. The engines should be rebuilt roughly every 120 to 150 hours. Nobody does it and they tend to last to about 150 to 180 hours on average. If you get the newer seadoos with the merc motor those two have issues. My 2002 x20 had the 225 merc and it never ran right since new. It finally blew the top piston after about 50 hours.

I do not know much about newer yamaha's but i know the early to mid 2000's were very problematic as well. I do not have any personal experience since i have never owned one but i know many people who did and they refuse to even look at another yamaha jet boat.

Now My personal boat that I have had throughout the years is my inboard boat. We do go out mostly on the small lakes around Traverse and have no problems. It is beyond reliable, never had a single issue with it. I stick with inboards because in me personal experience you can get a much nicer inboard boat for half the price of a decent running jet boat and you do not have to deal with all the reliability issues.

You may think that you do not have to worry as much about getting into shallow water but you do, those boats will suck the sand and rock up into the jet pump and ruin the impeller and wear ring which then will cause power loss and cavitation. Plan on at least $500-$800 bucks if and when that happens, and that would be using used parts to repair it.

Get an inboard, you will be very thankful that you did.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:37 AM   #58
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I think many of u do not understand what these modern 21foot jet boats act like . They arent like the little speedsters, they do not not not spin out. That's a trait of those small early ones, not the niew ones. They also handle great, mine corners amazing, and the no throttle no steering is unnoticeable.
totally agree. We have a 2003 17 foot 6 seater sugar sand 4+2 tango jetboat and its got the smallest motor (175 sport jet merc) and we love it. Its on otsego lake which has got lots of weeds, never once had a problem with them sucking up(in the past I have with regular jet skis). One time the boat sucked up a ski tow rope which was my spotters fault, but now I watch out for that and it hasnt happened since. Boat is WAY low mantience, just gas and oil and every few years I have to put a steering cable on it but I can whip it around like a dime at 50+ mph and still cruise. Been on alot of lakes from torch to rivers and i think its perfect for anything you want to do. Tank of gas seems to last forever, almost as good as a pontoon. Anyone who knows how to properly turn under little or no throttle on a jetski can handle this boat, personally Ive never been in a situtation that I couldnt turn if I blurped the thottle a bit, expecally since there is no gear drive so you can go straight into reverse very quick.. Its the best of both worlds with this boat, just a shame they dont make them anymore. I am really wanting a tilt/trim nozzle for this some day, thats an expensive upgrade, but I feel this boat would be perfect with it, it would give you total control. my vote is 100% for jet boats but only with the merc sportjet.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:41 AM   #59
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I think many of u do not understand what these modern 21foot jet boats act like . They arent like the little speedsters, they do not not not spin out. That's a trait of those small early ones, not the niew ones. They also handle great, mine corners amazing, and the no throttle no steering is unnoticeable.
Also the reason it is unnoticeable is because that is not actually the case. All newer jet boats have throttle cables hooked up the the steering wheel and when it is close to lock in either direction it increases the throttle enough to give enough propulsion for steering.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #60
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2.5 merc,probobly.the race versions make over 300 hp. I Love a checkmate with a big merc on the back.Not the nicest boats on the water,but nothing dances on the water like a checkmate at speed.
He claimed it would run 90 on glass with just him in it. He then put that same motor in a CAT (catamaran?) boat and says it will do a 100. I have done mid 70s in his boat with 4 people in it and wow, Thats crazy fast on the water.
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