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Old May 14th, 2012, 12:32 PM   #1
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Since same sex marriage is the most important issue facing our nation,

you know above and beyound

the economy, jobless rate, devaluation of the currency, shinking home values, Trade deficits, Iran's nuclear program, the national debt, exiting war strategies, Etc. Etc. the little things.

And since The Great Lakes 4x4 community represents a cross section of the demography of the entire United States.

I would like to have a mock poll.

Should same sex marriage be allowed

YES

or

No
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Old May 14th, 2012, 12:38 PM   #2
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You do know there is a poll option at the bottom before you post right?

My answer: yes.
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I would have to say that I think it should be allowed, but whatever previous quasi-marriage terms were being used to allow their "spouse" to get benefits should be nullified.

I honestly don't care what two people want to do as long as it doesn't affect me. The reason I support the marriage along with getting rid of all of the domestic partnership bullshit is that two gay people should have the same legal commitments as the rest of us do. This applies to both getting benefits from your spouse and also the spouse taking half of your shit when your relationship goes to the shitter.

To me these people are idiots for pushing the whole marriage envelope. With the domestic partnership thing it seems like they get the best of both worlds.
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Yes it should, but its far from important at this time....
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God made adam and eve not adam and steve!
Same sex partners should not be allowed to marry because that is meant for a man and women to enjoy as a gift from god.
Anyone that says it should pm me ill give you verses to surport my answer
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God made adam and eve not adam and steve!
Same sex partners should not be allowed to marry because that is meant for a man and women to enjoy as a gift from god.
Anyone that says it should pm me ill give you verses to surport my answer
I guess at one point I used to kinda see it that way.

But my question is, why do you care?

What adverse effect does it have on your life either way?

If they are truly doing something wrong in the eyes of God isn't that something he will deal with after they head up stairs?
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God made adam and eve not adam and steve!
Same sex partners should not be allowed to marry because that is meant for a man and women to enjoy as a gift from god.
Anyone that says it should pm me ill give you verses to surport my answer
you're confusing laws and governement with your personal religious beliefs.

At one point I thought gay marriage was pretty stupid, but anymore, I don't even care. I just want to see less fat people, less people on welfare, less laziness, entitlement, etc. I'd like to see people give a damn about thinking about sustainable forms of economic growth and improvement, etc.

If two homosexuals would like to get married so they can make a commitment to each other than in a sense I am all for it.

Personally I think in a round about way it's a good thing for the level of commitment they are showing to their relationship, making it harder (more so financially then anything else) to get divorced.

Divorce sucks ass, it's not good for this country, it's not good for those involved, it's not good for the kids involved, and it soaks up a ton of government resources through courts, friend of the court, child support enforcement etc.

so if we can place more value on relationships and commitment in this country I am not so sure I am against it. Gay people will adopt children, just like straight people should be married, so should they. Sure, thats perfect world shit, but the point remains.

Do I agree with the homosexual lifestyle? No
Do I want to see them get married? No
Do I care if they do? No, I sure don't.

Let them have it and let's focus on more important things.
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Yes true it is something he will deal with but also it is our job as so call christians to let the world know in a loving way that christ is the only way to truly enter into the kingdom of heaven notice i didnt say queer or fag in any of my comment
Hopefully the person you seen in that accident understood what im taking about!
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I think we should make it illegal for stupid people that can't punctuate to type. That should be one of the sins in the Bible too.
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Yes true it is something he will deal with but also it is our job as so call christians to let the world know in a loving way that christ is the only way to truly enter into the kingdom of heaven notice i didnt say queer or fag in any of my comment
Hopefully the person you seen in that accident understood what im taking about!
I have no problem with that.

To me Christians should say, "We disagree with gay marriage."

But that's it.

The problem I have is when what they believe goes from a friendly suggestion to the next level.

The same thing applies to pro-life anti-abortion stuff.
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On a touch screen phone dude not that easy to do
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Legislating your morality on others makes you no better than the cruelest dictator. You live your life according to how you feel you should live. Unless my choices affect your life directly, then piss off and leave everyone else alone.
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Yup everyone has there own beliefs i just simply stated mine is all
I hate it when people take it to that next level becuz then you give the rest of us a bad rep
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"Marriage" is a term used by the church to describe the union of a man, woman and God.

If people were smart enough, they would term the "marriage" of two same-sex partners something else to stop all the bitching. A civil union, partnership - whatever. It's sorta like using a religious term for something that is forbidden in religion, by God.

Name it something else, get legally bound to your gay partner and let the church continue their "thing" while "you" two start your own.
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

The people that complain about this must ether not read the bible or belive in god simple as that!
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

The people that complain about this must ether not read the bible or belive in god simple as that!
That statement makes me think the old Kingdom of God must be a pretty desolate place...
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

The people that complain about this must ether not read the bible or belive in god simple as that!
I love how they specify "male prostitutes". Female whores are all fine and dandy I guess.
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I love how they specify "male prostitutes". Female whores are all fine and dandy I guess.
Hahah wow! Thats funny
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so is your problem with homosexuality, or homosexuals making their relationship a legal union?
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you're confusing laws and governement with your personal religious beliefs.

At one point I thought gay marriage was pretty stupid, but anymore, I don't even care. I just want to see less fat people, less people on welfare, less laziness, entitlement, etc. I'd like to see people give a damn about thinking about sustainable forms of economic growth and improvement, etc.

If two homosexuals would like to get married so they can make a commitment to each other than in a sense I am all for it.

Personally I think in a round about way it's a good thing for the level of commitment they are showing to their relationship, making it harder (more so financially then anything else) to get divorced.

Divorce sucks ass, it's not good for this country, it's not good for those involved, it's not good for the kids involved, and it soaks up a ton of government resources through courts, friend of the court, child support enforcement etc.

so if we can place more value on relationships and commitment in this country I am not so sure I am against it. Gay people will adopt children, just like straight people should be married, so should they. Sure, thats perfect world shit, but the point remains.

Do I agree with the homosexual lifestyle? No
Do I want to see them get married? No
Do I care if they do? No, I sure don't.

Let them have it and let's focus on more important things.
Yup.
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