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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #181
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It is really wrong for priests to hide among the Catholic church to prey on young boys for thier own sadistic pleasure.
I agree with this - but I don't think many, if at all priests feel that way or deserve being described like that. I see no sadism, or drive to harm, in the intent - just a horrible situation and lives changed.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:10 AM   #182
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Christians != Catholics.

And have you given any thought as to why there seems to be so much molestation among the priesthood? Care to read my theory?

First of all, not all priests molest / rape children: for every one we hear about, (though I'm sure there are more that are not caught) there are THOUSANDS who do NOT molest boys. But as a profession, it seems like there is more than their fare share, and the type of transgression is quite ironic. Or, is it?

Think of a young man, raised to know and love God: Upon reaching puberty, this young man finds he is attracted to other men and not at all interested in women. He knows in his heart how he feels, and he knows it is quite a sin in the lord's eyes. So, instead of sinning with other men, he makes a vow to the lord and becomes a priest. Perfect rationalization: "I can remain celibate and serve God - and maybe - he will grant me the strength to keep from sin."
So the priest grows older and lonelier, meanwhile, he has not lost strength and succumbed to his true feelings for other men. He is part of a church, knows and loves his "flock" and helps many in the community. Let's not forget, not for a moment, that a priest is still a man - and after many years of celibacy - starts the shenanigans among the some of the young boys he supervises, often alone.

This man's only failing to this point was being human and trying to the best he could not to sin and to serve God. It's very sad. This is not to say that some priests are dirtbags / predators intentionally maneuvering to molest kids, statistics tells us it must exist too. But to denounce all Catholic priests as child molesters is no better than the crap Fred Phelps spews whenever there is a chance.
Only have my phone so ill touch on two points now and address the rest this evening.

I did not say "all."

I don't care "why." The devastation caused by it far outweighs the gay marriage issue.

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However, if you are going to allow "two people" to "marry" (as quoted by another post in this thread) why stop there?
Why stop at two, let's bring back multiple spouses and communal living?

How about Brother/Sister? Mother/Son? Father/Daughter, Granny/Grandson, etc., etc.


In the past when I have proposed the above, I get repulsive "ewww" looks from people that openly support Gay Marriage under the guise of, "but they're two willing, consenting adults..." as their excuse for supporting Gay Marriage - but they refuse to see the logic flaw and their own bigotry if they also don't support incestual relationships... etc.
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If lc4x spent less time preaching on the internet he would probably be living above the poverty level.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:18 AM   #185
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Only have my phone so ill touch on two points now and address the rest this evening.

I did not say "all."

I don't care "why." The devastation caused by it far outweighs the gay marriage issue.

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1. You did not say "some" either.

2. No argument from me - it should never happen. I merely gave an example of the lengths some men have gone to trying to deny the person they truly are (Gay, not child molesters) because of religious pressure.

Again - I'm just trying to point out how certain viewpoints and how much hatred pointed at gays make many persons' viewpoints / opinions so polarizing.

Live and let live. That's all.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #186
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Why stop at two, let's bring back multiple spouses and communal living?

How about Brother/Sister? Mother/Son? Father/Daughter, Granny/Grandson, etc., etc.


In the past when I have proposed the above, I get repulsive "ewww" looks from people that openly support Gay Marriage under the guise of, "but they're two willing, consenting adults..." as their excuse for supporting Gay Marriage - but they refuse to see the logic flaw and their own bigotry if they also don't support incestual relationships... etc.
I don't believe it is anyone's right to deny people the right to be a legal couple. If I had to consider the example you give, I don't think I could oppose a incestual union either - providing there were no children from natural birth.

There is scientific fact behind heath problems from inbreeding, but as far as I know, there is no evidence gay parents transform their children into gay adults.
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Why stop at two, let's bring back multiple spouses and communal living?

How about Brother/Sister? Mother/Son? Father/Daughter, Granny/Grandson, etc., etc.


In the past when I have proposed the above, I get repulsive "ewww" looks from people that openly support Gay Marriage under the guise of, "but they're two willing, consenting adults..." as their excuse for supporting Gay Marriage - but they refuse to see the logic flaw and their own bigotry if they also don't support incestual relationships... etc.
That's a very good argumentitive point, one I find more valid and have conflict with than the usual bible thumper 'It says so in the bible...'. If we are drawing lines, how do we choose what is acceptable, what is the criteria? The Libertarian side of me would say let any consenting adults marry whomever they please.
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Is this thread still going on.........

Man we post a lot about non-sense.

Here's my 0.2 cents. I don't like the Idea of same sex unions, using a Biblical word, to "politically correct" and change the meaning of this word given to us by God. But I cant stop it. There doesn't need to be legislation on a "Word" description.

However, if you are going to allow "two people" to "marry" (as quoted by another post in this thread) why stop there? Do you have too many scruples to stop a man and a donkey from getting married, or lets say a Great Dane and a Woman, or a piglet and a rooster,..........and so on, and so on.

This whole scenario is a "boarderline" waste of time.
Apples and oranges. Animals don't understand the concept and aren't capable of making that type of decision for themselves.
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If God existed he would have smote me by now. /thread.
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Apples and oranges. Animals don't understand the concept and aren't capable of making that type of decision for themselves.


Isn't this exactly whay "your" government is telling the Population of the U.S. on a daily basis, except as people not animals?

...........and I have seen several dogs try to do the "luv" act on people. Looks to me like they made a decision.
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If God existed he would have smote me by now. /thread.

sometimes you bring the funny Steveo.

But alas........you and I will both be judged.
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If God existed he would have smote me by now. /thread.
No. God does exist. You are being kept here to punish all the rest of us for our sins.
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No. God does exist. You are being kept here to punish all the rest of us for our sins.
I am mad at you. Been sending you 2-3 pics a day of gay porn and you wont even text me back.
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I am mad at you. Been sending you 2-3 pics a day of gay porn and you wont even text me back.
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Ok, I will give my opinion on this. It's not so much that the "faithful" put so much attention on this issue, its the pressure the gay community and everybody else that goes along with them saying "why not." It's not that bad, they just want to be normal like the rest of society. To the rest of society it's not normal. Gay people tend to be so much in your face with homosexuality. You don't see married couples have parades down the street celebrating thier togetherness. It would not be such a huge deal if they would have stayed in the closet, so to speak. I don't hate gay people, I think what they are doing is not the way to live a healthy life. Their are people that have come out of that lifestyle and go around the country speaking out the dangers of it.
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