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Old May 1st, 2012, 06:07 PM   #1
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and all you other mountain bikers... They just opened a bunch (~30 miles) of MB trails here that were previously closed.. Just thought I'd throw it out there...

http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/i...ng_return.html
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Old May 1st, 2012, 06:11 PM   #2
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Yep, great trails. Tough, but worth the trip over.

West Michigan is getting many miles of new trails. The new park at 10 mile and 131 should be ready by next month, and I've heard rumors of a new trail system up by Croton Dam.
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Old May 1st, 2012, 06:13 PM   #3
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I might just have to get my derailer fictsed. I haven't ridden my junk in 2 years.
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I might just have to get my derailer fictsed. I haven't ridden my junk in 2 years.
My wife just rode my junk the other night.




Been about 3 months, timing was lousy when I was in town most times.
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So what are real MB trails like? In my mind all I can really picture is a dirt road and the crazy shit Chad does. I'm a bit concerned that there is more of the later considering I about shat myself going down 3 little steps the other night when my peddle hit one, then I hit the front break... I did not faceplant however.
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Don't laugh at 'a dirt road'. A flat level dirt road takes a lot more effort than pavement.

IIRC, most of the trails are part of the 'rails to trails' system. In other words, a flat level dirt road.
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Don't laugh at 'a dirt road'. A flat level dirt road takes a lot more effort than pavement.

IIRC, most of the trails are part of the 'rails to trails' system. In other words, a flat level dirt road.
I guess my point was I can handle a dirt road. I can't handle weaving down hill between trees at 40mph. I would die.
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I guess my point was I can handle a dirt road. I can't handle weaving down hill between trees at 40mph. I would die.
I can't fit between trees at 40mph.
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Anything in-between. Bass creek in grand haven is very mild, but better than a dirt road. I think its only a 6 mile loop too. Yankee springs is intermediate, longer and a lot more fun.
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That's great to hear. Those were some good trails.
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I guess my point was I can handle a dirt road. I can't handle weaving down hill between trees at 40mph. I would die.
Try Island Lake Rec Area. I've never been there but I hear it's pretty popular among newer riders. If you start to get comfortable you can try out some more advanced trails like the Tree Farm in Novi.

If you ever make it over towards Kalamazoo the Fort Custer park has some awesome trails suitable for beginners (but avoid the red loop).

There is definitely a broad spectrum between dirt roads and downhill. Once you get some time in on the bike you may be surprised at your increasing comfort level with going fast in the woods.

Tip: push yourself to go faster in corners. You will be surprised what the bike can handle without washing out. Being fast in corners can help you keep up with guys who would otherwise be a lot faster than you, but who can't corner as well.

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Don't laugh at 'a dirt road'. A flat level dirt road takes a lot more effort than pavement.

IIRC, most of the trails are part of the 'rails to trails' system. In other words, a flat level dirt road.
The rails to trails by us that are new are like riding through quicksand made of pea gravel.

I don't corner well. I over think it and then over steer :P
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Holdridge in Holly is one of my favorite trail systems. I was not real fond of Pontiac Lake.

I walked the Copper Harbor trails they have been building last fall. I think I will have a new favorite if I make it up there with the bike this year.
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I guess my point was I can handle a dirt road. I can't handle weaving down hill between trees at 40mph. I would die.
If you want to go try a easy trail trail let me know. i like mountain biking but im fat and slow. I really like Addison Oaks
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So what are real MB trails like? In my mind all I can really picture is a dirt road and the crazy shit Chad does. I'm a bit concerned that there is more of the later considering I about shat myself going down 3 little steps the other night when my peddle hit one, then I hit the front break... I did not faceplant however.
Island lake is a great starter trail, I've ridden it once before, but plan to take Xander down there soon. They have a 9 mile and a 6 mile loop. They are more fun than the rail to trail type stuff, but not too technical at all. Island lake is best after it rains so it isn't as sandy (in spots).

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The rails to trails by us that are new are like riding through quicksand made of pea gravel.

I don't corner well. I over think it and then over steer :P
don't steer, lean, and trust your tires (assuming you have decent mountain biking type tread for the terrain you are on), cornering in loose gravel is probably the scariest of all corners still for me.

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Holdridge in Holly is one of my favorite trail systems. I was not real fond of Pontiac Lake.

I walked the Copper Harbor trails they have been building last fall. I think I will have a new favorite if I make it up there with the bike this year.
Holdridge is great, you can do the East loop, part of the east loop, the middle, the beginning, the north, the west, the lake, the tech, the turtle, etc. and make whatever combo/distance you want.

Pontiac lake has some more sustained climbs and downhills, i like it.

Copper Harbor is retarded awesome, best XC trails in the state, technical, fast, flowy, downhills, uphills, trails that make you sweat, trails that make you giggle, trails that make you curse, etc. Great trail system.

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If you want to go try a easy trail trail let me know. i like mountain biking but im fat and slow. I really like Addison Oaks
I have only ridden addison oaks once, and I hated it. To me that trail had zero flow. That was 3 years ago, I have no intentions of ever going back
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I read this thread title too fast. My mind registered it as 'dickstand and cooter'.

That is all.
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I never rode the Copper Harbor trails while I was up there, but the Tech Trails just south of MTU are a lot of fun, there are easy loops with some smaller British Columbia-style manmade obstacles, and some very technical, very hilly, much more difficult loops through some awesome woods. The Christiansen Rd trails NW of Hancock are lots of fun too, lots of high speed uphills and down. Sort of like a Pontiac Lake with much better scenery.

I didn't ride nearly enough in my time up there
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