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Old April 26th, 2012, 04:37 PM   #41
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really ? why would my fuel mileage go down pulling an enclosed ? I must be forgetting something ?
because you are towing a gigantic parachute.
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Old April 26th, 2012, 05:14 PM   #42
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I'm confused, If you had a truck camper in a pickup truck, you aren't titled as an RV... how do you get a ticket for an overweight RV? I've never heard of a big diesel pusher RV having any weight issues in Canada???? weird
its just an overweight ticket. has nothing to do with rv. with a 3500 to 4000 lb tc, in a 3/4 ton truck you are over weight. thats all cargo weight. you could pull a trailer that heavy easy. you cant carry that much cargo. the us wont usually enforce weight restrictions on a private owned vehicle. unless your charged with unsafe load. canada will dig alot deeper, their laws are different.

take your gvw and subtract your curb weight, thats your cargo capacity.

a big diesel pusher has a much higher gvw than any 3/4 ton pu.

it may not apply to him at all in a class 8/rv? what is his gvw-curb weight?
just know thew law b4 you go there to be sure.
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it may not apply to him at all in a class 8/rv? what is his gvw-curb weight?
most likely 33K or 35K lbs rated trucks, about 17K curb weight empty, for the trucks he is looking at. Shouldn't be an issue
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Old April 26th, 2012, 08:02 PM   #44
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jim gurst is looking into the law side of this.a rv title from what we are told you must be able to walk from front to back,now i know cory just did his and you can walk all the way through his.you cant in these and i heard you need to title as a toter home. just figuring out all the little details,what is legal and what is not.
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a rv title from what we are told you must be able to walk from front to back, .
nope, you need permanant cooking and sleeping facilities, which they never check. You just declared to the SOS that you did the converion to a motorhome, using a TR-34 form. Then you get an on-road vehicle inspection completed (TR-54). Get the rig weighed on certified scales, take all the paperwork back to the SOS, pay your title and registration fees, and you are on your way.

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jim gurst is looking into the law side of this.a rv title from what we are told you must be able to walk from front to back,now i know cory just did his and you can walk all the way through his.you cant in these and i heard you need to title as a toter home. just figuring out all the little details,what is legal and what is not.
RV has to have permanent cooking and sleeping areas, you do not need to walk from front to the back...I had the State defination of a RV somewhere but now I can't find it...

EDIT: BIlly beat me to it
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nope, you need permanant cooking and sleeping facilities, which they never check. You just declared to the SOS that you did the converion to a motorhome, using a TR-34 form. Then you get an on-road vehicle inspection completed (TR-54). Get the rig weighed on certified scales, take all the paperwork back to the SOS, pay your title and registration fees, and you are on your way.

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yours were checked...I know the guy who did it!
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Old April 26th, 2012, 09:03 PM   #48
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thanks bill.jim told me all this today.that is what he was told.the salesman told me what you stated. i am sure i will be fine i look like a law abiding citizen...

did you ask the suits at your work honcho if they know any info on this?
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yours were checked...I know the guy who did it!
I guess I should word it more correctly... You don't need to have a huge RV conversion done at the time of inspection, you only need a permanant mounted mattress and microwave, not exactly what most have in mind for a typical RV. After the inspection you can rip the truck apart and rebuild the RV more properly, but still legally use the truck in the meantime.
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we were almost in the same boat as you. I weighed many options and ended up with our current setup. for us, it's really nice to be able to drop the trailer/camper where ever we want to and still use the truck.

it sleeps the 4 of us with little problems and still has enough room for our large dog. I do wish the living quarters were a little bigger, but had to stay within the limits of what "they" say is a legal limit for a 2500hd. I get 9-10 mpg all day pulling a total of 22K and it doesn't break a sweat doing it.

plenty of room for my rig on the back and could even squeeze a couple quads on it if I had to. we still have a stove, 2 showers, microwave, fridge, toilet, etc....

just my .02

only cons to us is
1)can't sleep in the camper while moving (not legal)
2) wish the living quarters was a little bigger
3) CCSB is a little tight with all 4 of us and the dog.
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we were almost in the same boat as you. I weighed many options and ended up with our current setup. for us, it's really nice to be able to drop the trailer/camper where ever we want to and still use the truck.

it sleeps the 4 of us with little problems and still has enough room for our large dog. I do wish the living quarters were a little bigger, but had to stay within the limits of what "they" say is a legal limit for a 2500hd. I get 9-10 mpg all day pulling a total of 22K and it doesn't break a sweat doing it.

plenty of room for my rig on the back and could even squeeze a couple quads on it if I had to. we still have a stove, 2 showers, microwave, fridge, toilet, etc....

just my .02

only cons to us is
1)can't sleep in the camper while moving (not legal)
2) wish the living quarters was a little bigger
3) CCSB is a little tight with all 4 of us and the dog.
a pic would help.
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You can sleep in the camper, check the law again..
.well in MI you can
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sorry, figured most everyone knew my setup by now.



just sayin it works well for us.
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The big rv busses have expensive plates, i assume this would be equal
My dads 38 ft motorhome is some where in the neighbor hood of 5 or 600 a year. For plates plus the insurance is rediculous also.
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sorry, figured most everyone knew my setup by now.

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just sayin it works well for us.
I like that option, but there is no way I could let my rig sit outside, or tow with it outside. I did that one winter and I'll never do it again. The rust was out of control before I couldfix it. Plus when I'm at home, the buggy stays in toter while I work on other stuff in the garage.
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.well in MI you can

I believe it has to be a 5th wheel hitch to occupy the coach while moving. Guessing his is a gooseneck. He could convert it and be ok.
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I like that option, but there is no way I could let my rig sit outside, or tow with it outside. I did that one winter and I'll never do it again. The rust was out of control before I couldfix it. Plus when I'm at home, the buggy stays in toter while I work on other stuff in the garage.
I hear ya on that one. I usually paint it once a year (decent quality rattle can) to make it look pretty

when not is use, the rig/trailer/camper is all parked indoors (pole barn)
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the company i work for baught one of those big uhaul trucks with the 7.3 diesel in it lots of room for sleeping tools and rig for 2500 dollars they r well maintained if you look around you can find one from arizona like we did with no rust
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