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Old April 11th, 2012, 02:39 PM   #1
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Ok so I'm going to be picking up a set of dana 44s with 2.73 gears from a wagoneer for my yj
I am going to go to 4.88s and I'm going to run a Detroit in the back
My question is what locket would be best for the front, I still drive my jeep in the summer and in the winter and I want it to handle well on icy roads in the winter
My second question is where can I buy the gears and lockers, I live in the Kalamazoo area and I wondered if I could get a package deal anywhere fairly local or if I should order the online or somewhere else
I would be willing to drive if I got a good enough deal
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Old April 11th, 2012, 02:53 PM   #2
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EVERYBODY will give you a different answer to this and it really depend on where you drive the most. My opinion and whats in my Jeep Cj7 with scout 44s is no Locker at all. I have a buddy with a Detroit Locker rear and he doesn't like the way it drives around corner. I have a Powerloc in the rear and a detroit truetrac front and I can drive around corner in winter completely lock in with no jerking or pushing. When off road mine work very well but are not completely locked up. Mine always spins all four tire but I mainly plan in the snow. You got my $.02
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I'm sure most will say go selectable if you can afford it. If not Id say some type of ratcheting lunch box. And stay away from spools if you ever want to be able to turn.

As for gears check out RMS (link in my sig) Ron is very knowledgeable and would be able to help you decide. Also with his prices I see a drive to Perry, MI in your future!
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I thought about an ox locker but I didn't know how well it would handle on the road in the winter when locked in because it basically becomes a spool
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Old April 11th, 2012, 03:18 PM   #5
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I thought about an ox locker but I didn't know how well it would handle on the road in the winter when locked in because it basically becomes a spool
why would you lock it in when on the road? It's selectable for a reason.

I run an art in my 30 now and only use it when I need it. Even when off-road, I only lock in when needed and unlock when done.

I ran a powertrax in a rear 60 and detroit in the front 44 of the old YJ. Drove on the street fine in the winter. Just leave more room and don't drive like a dumb A and you'll be fine.

I ran a detroit true track in the front of the TJ before the axle swap and it was ok. As long as I can keep some wheel speed (mud/sand) it would keep both wheels turning. Will not work well when crawling or on rocks.
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I thought about an ox locker but I didn't know how well it would handle on the road in the winter when locked in because it basically becomes a spool
As long as there's snow on the ground I had no problem this past winter with both hubs looked in with my mini spool. When there was minimal snow I would lock in one hub and "3 wheel" and could still turn just fine. But a selectable will automatically 3 wheel when open.

Regardless fully locked on the street isn't needed in Michigan, but sure is fun
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Well what do you guys think about a tru trac in the front?
Bo seems to like his up front anybody else have an opinion?
I'm going with a carrier based locker because I would have to buy a new carrier to run a lunchbox with new gears
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I'm happy with my front detroit truetrac. Its essentially what they use in the H1 / ford raptors. If you do get a wheel spinning freely, tap the brake and it will lock again. I've had to do this once while at the mounds when I had the driver side tire stuffed in the fender. I can turn unlock the guys with detroits in the front at silver lake. Plus its easier on stuff so you can get away with a bigger tire.
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I have an OX in my front 44, so I'll give you my $.02. This is my second OX and I had one in my D30. My thought was similar to yours but I wanted the selectability for easier turning offroad. I don't do too much winter driving.

I didnt plan on it doing it, but before I finished building my axles I added hydro-assist. Then I found I didn't need to unlock the OX for turning. When I hit the trail I engage the OX and leave it. If I was going to do it again I would run a Detroit locker in the front.

I don't remember what size tires you said you plan to run, but one of the problems with a D44 and bigger tires is ring gear deflection that ends catastrophically. A full-case locker (Detroit, OX, ARB type) will help a great deal with this problem. Any of the lockers that replace the spider gears (Spartan, Aussie, No-Slip type) will not.
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Lesser expensive = any lunchbox locker will work well
More expensive = Detroit. It will work well
Most expensive = ARB

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I've daily driven several rigs with spools/welded rears...you can get used to it and it's way more predictable than a Detroit rear. I've run a selectable up front (Ox) and liked it, but liked the lunchbox lockers better. I've run a selectable in the rear (ARB) and it blew up, I liked the spool better.
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i think im gonna run a detroit rear and a trutrac front but i still dont know the cheapest place to buy it rons machine shop has good deals and im looking into ironman
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Why dont you go to rons buggy emporium, Whats wrong with you
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Any body have any exsperiences with a factory posi in the front?
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I would not waste my time with a limited slip that uses clutches.
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I would not waste my time with a limited slip that uses clutches.
reasons?
im not gonna be running huge tires, 33s tops
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