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Old April 11th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #201
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Z was in the wrong about approching M. What I have heard was that Z was jumped upon getting back to his truck and had his head bashed to the cement and recieved a broken nose. Sounds like self defence.
It will come out in court and if thet find Z innocent then the riots will be rampant across the nation.
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One is dead.
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Outside of that, I know Martin - good or bad kid - would still be alive if Zimmerman could've kept his ego and firearm holstered that night. Did you read the link I posted earlier?

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One is dead.
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Outside of that, I know Martin - good or bad kid - would still be alive if Zimmerman could've kept his ego and firearm holstered that night. Did you read the link I posted earlier?

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13341930448001
So Zimmerman would be dead instead?

Like people have stated before, there is no law against following someone. If you follow someone as part of neighborhood watch or not, get attacked and kill them in self defense it is still justified. Whether or not that's what happened between Zimmerman and Martin, who knows. That's what the court will decide I guess, but if they were going to charge him, it should have happened when he was first arrested, not weeks later due to mob pressure.
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Old April 11th, 2012, 08:49 PM   #203
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So Zimmerman would be dead instead?

Like people have stated before, there is no law against following someone. If you follow someone as part of neighborhood watch or not, get attacked and kill them in self defense it is still justified. Whether or not that's what happened between Zimmerman and Martin, who knows. That's what the court will decide I guess, but if they were going to charge him, it should have happened when he was first arrested, not weeks later due to mob pressure.
The whole case is garbage. The media has turned every fact, and its hard to get an understanding. The eye witness that spoke out, said that Zimmerman head was bashed into the ground, and the police report stated he received medical attetion there. A video from the jail 30 minutes after the incident shows Zimmerman with no 'visible' cuts or bruises. The enxt thing i read was that Zimmerman was attacked once he got back to his truck to meet with the police. But another report says that Martin was on his phone with his girlfriend when Martin told her someone was chasing him. She told him to run, and then heard Zimmerman ask what he was doing there, and punch him. Then you got the media showing Martin as a 13 yr old boy, and Zimmerman in an orange jail jump suit. While, Martin was 6'3, and Zimmerman was only 5'9 or so.

I agree that Martin deserves justice. If Zimmerman wasn't allowed to possess a firearm due to the domestic assault, he should've been arrested right then and there. But all the black vs. white racist bullshit is what pisses me off. Because Zimmerman (a latino) killed a black, its racist? The Black Panaters should be arrested for placing a bounty.
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Old April 11th, 2012, 09:39 PM   #204
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I know it's garbage and the fact have been twisted a lot. I don't think Zimmerman will be found guilty. There is enough reasonable doubt with all of the facts that he won't be found guilty. Then again....who really knows.
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If im not mistaken, he was convicted for second degree murder around 6 o'clock this evening. But i may be wrong
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If im not mistaken, he was convicted for second degree murder around 6 o'clock this evening. But i may be wrong
He was charged. Meaning charges were brought against him, but a trial still needs to happen.
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The media has opened up the racial divide with all the partial fact information they put out. They should either not say much about it, or put all the facts out for people to decide for theirselves. Not try to create hype and controversy that has led to other innocenrt people getting harmed by people reacting to it. With all the attention and anger directed at zimmerman, his life is basically over also. If he does not get convicted, he will never be able to walk around safely, if he does go to prison he is probably going to have a target put on him. I am not saying what he did is right or wrong. Just waiting for all the facts to come out before I make a decision.
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Z was not attacked near his truck. The incident took place in the common area of the apartment complex in front of some apartments.
The police didn't do a good job initially. They had no idea that Z shouldn't have a gun because of his arrest in 2005. My feeling from everything I have read (and again this is my FEELING- not a fact) is that Z couldn't get into the police academy so he was running around like a vigilanty wanna be.
I saw some statistic that Z had called 911 like 90+ times in a year? I cant remember where I saw it. Who does that? Seriously? Not even the nosey old lady across the road from us (that makes me feel secure that it will be hard for someone to break into my house on her watch) hasn't probably called 911 even 3 times.
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I can't believe the media is still using pictures of trayvon from when he was like 12, I don't care who was right or wrong in this issue, but the media flashing these pictures over 5 years old of trayvon pisses me off, in fact I am going to write a letter to our local new station.
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I can't believe the media is still using pictures of trayvon from when he was like 12, I don't care who was right or wrong in this issue, but the media flashing these pictures over 5 years old of trayvon pisses me off, in fact I am going to write a letter to our local new station.
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I bet I just sent it out! Emailed them thru their website. So you happen to RONG again biatch
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Yes that is angering I agree.. at least be honest about the information. I love how biased both sides are.
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The Prosecutor is swinging for the fence on this case, The state of Florida screwed up on the Casey Antony case when they went for 1st degree, so in this case they go for 2nd degree, and it allows the jury to choose from 2nd degree to involuntary manslaughter.

I also think they went with 2nd degree to keep the peace, and the press conference was very one sided, she spoke about the victim and his family on a personal level not a professional level Just my opinion.
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Old April 12th, 2012, 10:17 AM   #216
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Yes that is angering I agree.. at least be honest about the information. I love how biased both sides are.
BIAS? did someone say BIAS? thought justice was blind
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Z was not attacked near his truck. The incident took place in the common area of the apartment complex in front of some apartments.
The police didn't do a good job initially. They had no idea that Z shouldn't have a gun because of his arrest in 2005. My feeling from everything I have read (and again this is my FEELING- not a fact) is that Z couldn't get into the police academy so he was running around like a vigilanty wanna be.
I saw some statistic that Z had called 911 like 90+ times in a year? I cant remember where I saw it. Who does that? Seriously? Not even the nosey old lady across the road from us (that makes me feel secure that it will be hard for someone to break into my house on her watch) hasn't probably called 911 even 3 times.

My wife is the Assistant to the Fire Chief in a local Township. She gets phone calls from about a dozen different people within the Township, at least 3 or 4 times a week complaining about one thing or another.

Yesterday was the lack of heat in a renters hallway to their apartment. What this has to do with the fire department, I will never know.

If someone actually attempts to burn leaves...........well lets just say, she has had over 100 phone calls in less then a 6 hour period.

Some people are just too nosy, and wired wrong.
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Yes that is angering I agree.. at least be honest about the information. I love how biased both sides are.
Thats why theres "sides".
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Z was not attacked near his truck. The incident took place in the common area of the apartment complex in front of some apartments.
The police didn't do a good job initially. They had no idea that Z shouldn't have a gun because of his arrest in 2005. My feeling from everything I have read (and again this is my FEELING- not a fact) is that Z couldn't get into the police academy so he was running around like a vigilanty wanna be.
I saw some statistic that Z had called 911 like 90+ times in a year? I cant remember where I saw it. Who does that? Seriously? Not even the nosey old lady across the road from us (that makes me feel secure that it will be hard for someone to break into my house on her watch) hasn't probably called 911 even 3 times.
Yeah, Drew on WRIF mentioned Z's phone calls to 911. It was a really high number around 100. Insane. I agree 100%. Whatever happens, this could turn into a case about the "Stand your ground" gun laws in Florida.
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This case has been blown way out of proportion. Every news source has twisted the details in whatever way they feel necessary, while none of them are the same. A hispanic male, who lives in a neighborhood with recent break-ins see's a suspecious black male and calls the cops. What happens after that, i have no idea, other than the black kid ending up dieing. If its going to be called racist when a white dislikes a black, it should be called racist when a black dislikes a white.

What drives me nuts about this whole thing is that it's the media that turn this into a racial thing, why is it necessary to write in a news article that ,"Zimmerman, who's mother is Hispanic and father is white"

how does that have ANYTHING to do about this? Unfortunately, until the people stop drinking the Media's KoolAid people will just fall into their trap of turning our country upside down.....

So tired of all this BS!
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