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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:27 AM   #181
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Serious question , what has any of our past few presidents done that has really impacted our country in a positive way? I have never been huge in to politics but i cant seem to remember any president democrat or republican doing anything spectacular to move us forward. It seems that the one that is leaving leaves a mess for the next one to clean up. It just seems like a never ending cycle.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:29 AM   #182
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you might be, but you've lost all credibility. Your rubber I'm glue, I figured you were going to go with that, but remember you first stated that you were voting for obama, so you should first state what facts you are basing your vote on, since that's what this thread is about.

Yes, I'm an uneducated follower just repeating non truths that I read on the internet and overheard while listening to whiterhino talk to his neighbor one day.
Coming from you, REALLY!!!!!
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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:31 AM   #183
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Coming from you, REALLY!!!!!
Yeah coming from me.

I see now you want to turn this into a personal attack type of thread, unless of course I am reading your last post wrong....

You're supporting Obama, 3 or 4 people have already agreed with me in stating this thread is about WHY YOU ARE supporting obama, and you continue to bring nothing. Not one thing. Except, I like him better than the other guys.

I've asked continually what he has done to earn your vote. You bring nothing.

Now you want to attack my credibility? I'm not the one who needs to bring it to this argument, I do NOT support him.

However, I'm willing to bet that my major in Economics, my minor in business administration, my second minor in political science, and 10 years of experience working in the staffing industry studying economic trends and it's affect on high level salaried employment (let's say 80K+), mid level say 40-80k (blue collar, white collar, corporate, hourly, salaried, etc), and lower level skilled and non skilled employment (40k and under) combined with my education. Gives me a pretty good understanding of how economic policy works, how government regulation/policy/voting/etc affects people, and last but not least, what someone like you wants to argue.

Now, if you want to provide some facts and reasoning above a third grade level as to why you think supporting Obama is a move in the right direction for our country I'd be more than happy to oblige. But if you want to continue along with the finger point, side stepping, and complete inability to defend your stance on Obama, as this thread was intended, then I'm giving up on you, quite simply because you're proving you can't do the things that that you're asking those of us to do instead.

Let me guess, another one line response laughing, pointing fingers or sidestepping?

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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:40 AM   #184
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I do not want to ruin this thread. You win.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 09:41 AM   #185
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I can't logically explain why I am supporting Obama. You win.
I figured as much.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #186
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I cannot argue without valid points. I lose.
This is what I got out of your reply.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:26 AM   #187
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i figured as much.
wow!
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #188
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This is what I got out of your reply.
I see we are on the same page
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:28 AM   #189
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So let me see if I understand how this thread is supposed to work:

Obama supporters are to give their reasons for supporting Obama, complete with facts and figures and supporting documentation. Then Obama detractors are allowed to poke holes in those reasons with whatever unsupported claims they come up with, and then itís the Obama supporters job to go research those claims so they can be discussed.

Did I get that right?
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:31 AM   #190
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So let me see if I understand how this thread is supposed to work:

Obama supporters are to give their reasons for supporting Obama, complete with facts and figures and supporting documentation. Then Obama detractors are allowed to poke holes in those reasons with whatever unsupported claims they come up with, and then itís the Obama supporters job to go research those claims so they can be discussed.

Did I get that right?
NO! Please see post #164
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:31 AM   #191
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So let me see if I understand how this thread is supposed to work:

Obama supporters are to give their reasons for supporting Obama, complete with facts and figures and supporting documentation. Then Obama detractors are allowed to poke holes in those reasons with whatever unsupported claims they come up with, and then itís the Obama supporters job to go research those claims so they can be discussed.

Did I get that right?
No, not at all.

Obama Supporters are supposed to give their reasons with supporting facts as to why they support obama, and those who don't should respond with such.

Or they could just be like you and argue just to argue and ask questions and not bring up any supporting evidence just to stir the pot.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 10:58 AM   #192
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It amazes me how people can't see it that way....obama has done nothing but try and push socialist big government programs.....you will never eliminate 100% of the free loaders, but the rate at which obama is trying to add that type of thing is dumbfounding....
This was six pages ago. I ask to read where you got this info.
Now a well educated man as your self would have taken two minutes to enlighten me but no you choose to flame me for not voting .
This may not be your first rodeo but it has ended the same as all of your other ones. Thank you.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:11 AM   #193
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That sounds like an Awesome cat.
Got any pics?
That could be a trap door to a joke at my expense,

But no, not any that really display it. He's a beast though. Big frickin feather duster tail and strong as all get out. Maybe 30 lbs is a but much, but my other cat, who he dwarfs, got weighed at 20 two weeks ago and the vet said that he probably tips the scales at around 30.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #194
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can't we just all get along......

Yup this thread is gradually derailing.
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Lets try this. Kindly, please fill in the following:

1. I VOTED FOR BARRACK OBAMA IN 2008 BECAUSE: (please fill in blank)


a. reason #1


b. reason #2


2. I WILL VOTE FOR BARRACK OBAMA AGAIN IN 2012 BECAUSE: (please fill in blank)


a. reason #1


b. reason #2
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #196
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Lets try this. Kindly, please fill in the following:

1. I VOTED FOR BARRACK OBAMA IN 2008 BECAUSE: (please fill in blank)


a. reason #1


b. reason #2


2. I WILL VOTE FOR BARRACK OBAMA AGAIN IN 2012 BECAUSE: (please fill in blank)


a. reason #1


b. reason #2


I guess I thought I would streamline things so we could keep on track, but apparently there are no takers.......well it was worth a shot.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #197
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I guess I thought I would streamline things so we could keep on track, but apparently there are no takers.......well it was worth a shot.
my entire point proven.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 12:36 PM   #198
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Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.
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I guess I thought I would streamline things so we could keep on track, but apparently there are no takers.......well it was worth a shot.
Sorry I didn't happen to look at thread in those 47 minutes.

Maybe I'll have time to answer later.

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Old March 8th, 2012, 01:00 PM   #200
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Lets try this. Kindly, please fill in the following:

1. I VOTED FOR BARRACK OBAMA IN 2008 BECAUSE: (please fill in blank)


a. It was the cool thing to do


b. He was black


2. I WILL VOTE FOR BARRACK OBAMA AGAIN IN 2012 BECAUSE: (please fill in blank)


a. MTV tells me Republicans are bad


b. He is still black


I think I answered for 90% of the voters.
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