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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:38 PM   #1
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Default Best budget U joint

Whats everyone running? The price range on U joints is all over the board from $20 Spicers to $200 CTM's and I'm sure the quality changes accordingly. However with a d44 I'm sure I don't need a CTM or equivalent joint, as something else will let go first. Besides I've read that a non-needle bearing joint is bad to run on the street.

I just ordered a set of Yukon shafts and I don't want to hurt them by snapping a U joint. I've pm'd a couple of people and some have luck with the solid Spicer's but I broke one of those on stock shafts, so I'm leaning away from those. I have found an Alloy Usa U joint, for about the same cost of a Spicer plus a set of full circle clips. Id like to know what you think of these, as well as any other suggestions.

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DO NOT RUN Alloy U-Joints!!!!!! Feel free to read the thread but please save your money and run either a Spicer 5-760x or step up to a CTM or equivalent.

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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:41 PM   #2
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i dont think theres a such thing as a budget joint. from my experiance its all either good or bad. i have always ran spicers personally cause i dont see me shelling out 400 to 600 for ctms.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:44 PM   #3
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By "budget" I'm assuming you mean one you can basically get over the parts counter? I've had the best luck with Spicers, the non-serviceable ones. I've run Vatozone joints on my driveshaft and they are ok, at least they have a lifetime warranty when I need new ones.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:49 PM   #4
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I always run spicer solids,with great luck.I have broke them,but always find a dry cap,too much presure washing on my part.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #5
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By budget I mean under 100~150 or so for 2 and Id like to get something designed for the off road industry. Ive ran the Autozone and the Spicer's in the past and haven't had the best of luck with them. I saved for shafts and Id hate to hurt them with an inferior joint.

To sum it up I'd rather spend a little now than a lot later on new shafts.
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Minimum grade = Spicers.
Improved grades = Longfields, Randy's, CTM's. Not much in between.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 07:53 AM   #7
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Minimum grade = Spicers.
Improved grades = Longfields, Randy's, CTM's. Not much in between.
The Alloy USA joints have a three year breakage warranty, so they might be considered an in-between. Their warranty process is a little more cumbersome than others (they prefer to have a pic of the broken joint before the return is authorized, for example) but they always come through.

Yukon Super Joints can be run on the street but you want to keep them well greased. The way to get into super joints is to buy an axle kit that includes them...you're getting them for almost half price that way.
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i run precision joints in my figure 8 car, 450 hp, lots of reverse/drive, so far i havent been let down. the solid ones.
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Cancel your yukon order and buy RCV's...........if you don't want to worry about u-joints that is
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+1. Thats what I run with my Yukons and full circle clips. No problems with cut 35" boggers and 580 ft-lb torque.
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The Alloy USA joints have a three year breakage warranty, so they might be considered an in-between. Their warranty process is a little more cumbersome than others (they prefer to have a pic of the broken joint before the return is authorized, for example) but they always come through.

Yukon Super Joints can be run on the street but you want to keep them well greased. The way to get into super joints is to buy an axle kit that includes them...you're getting them for almost half price that way.
Thanks I didn't know they had a warranty on them. Having a 3 year warranty is pretty nice for a $40 joint. Plus the fact that they are similarly priced to a Spicer with a set of full circle clips makes the decision even easier.

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The spicer ujoints are $33 a piece then $10 per joint for full circle clips. With the Alloy Usa having a 3yr warranty and full circle clips for only $2 more they seem like a clear cut choice. My only concern is they are greasable so will they be weaker then the spicer non-greasables?

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I would make sure your set of shafts don't mandate a certain type of joint be used for the a warranty. Something to check on before you buy joints since you already dropped coin on shafts.
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My yukons when I owned a 44, came with 5-760s. My stock shafts held up better then the yukons did. That was 5 yrs ago.
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I would make sure your set of shafts don't mandate a certain type of joint be used for the a warranty. Something to check on before you buy joints since you already dropped coin on shafts.
This, most cromo shaft warranties are void if you don't use a like wise joint.
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Minimum grade = Spicers.
Improved grades = Longfields, Randy's, CTM's. Not much in between.
I figured this would be the case. But for the price I'm willing to try them and I'll be sure to report back to the class.

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Cancel your yukon order and buy RCV's...........if you don't want to worry about u-joints that is
I'm pretty sure I have less into my SAS than what a set of RCV's cost

And I also noticed that I didn't end up with Yukon shafts, I shared an order with a buddy and those were for him. (My fault I placed the order and wasn't paying attention to brand name but rather what shafts we needed, as that's how the site works. Sorry for any confusion.)

I ended up with Usa Standard Gear shafts. For less than the cost of stock shafts. They were recommend by several people on here and I'm sure the'll work just fine.

Here's the link in case anyone wants cheap shafts
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The spicer ujoints are $33 a piece then $10 per joint for full circle clips. With the Alloy Usa having a 3yr warranty and full circle clips for only $2 more they seem like a clear cut choice. My only concern is they are greasable so will they be weaker then the spicer non-greasables?
They are greased the same way as all of the higher end joints. with individual zerks in the caps themselves, this way there inst a hollow passage way running through the joint. They seem like they were designed well.
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I would make sure your set of shafts don't mandate a certain type of joint be used for the a warranty. Something to check on before you buy joints since you already dropped coin on shafts.
Thanks Ill make sure to look into the warranty specifics on both the U joint and shafts.
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