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Old February 28th, 2012, 06:53 AM   #21
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My wife is a Paramedic, I hear about this crap all the time.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 06:54 AM   #22
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Shouldn't this thread be in "Sightings?"
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Old February 28th, 2012, 07:40 AM   #23
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Thanks, very true. We have a few guys who are volunteers off-shift and they say the same thing. I can't imagine why anyone would think it's cool to block the way of an emergency vehicle.

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If an emergency vehicle is involved in an accident passing on the right with emergency warning systems activated they are at fault(at least in Canada)
Yah, no doubt. Dat sounds aboot right. I'm pretty sure da mounties would nab ya over here for dat too, eh.

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I prefer to make my "Dear fucktard" notices a little more public. I'm sure this will end up in the bin eventually anyways.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 07:48 AM   #24
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What is the actual law about pulling over for emergency vehicles? My drivers Ed teacher taught us to pull over and slow down, do not stop.
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Section 257.653
MICHIGAN VEHICLE CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 300 of 1949


257.653 Immediate approach of authorized emergency vehicle; duty of driver of another vehicle; duty of streetcar operator; violation as civil infraction.
Sec. 653.

(1) Upon the immediate approach of an authorized emergency vehicle equipped with not less than 1 lighted flashing, rotating, or oscillating lamp exhibiting a red or blue light visible under normal atmospheric condition from a distance of 500 feet to the front of the vehicle and when the driver is giving audible signal by siren, exhaust whistle, or bell:

(a) The driver of another vehicle shall yield the right of way and shall immediately drive to a position parallel to and as close as possible to the right-hand edge or curb of the roadway, clear of an intersection, and shall stop and remain in that position until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed, except when otherwise directed by a police officer.

(b) The operator of a streetcar shall immediately stop the car, clear of an intersection, and shall keep it in that position until the authorized emergency vehicle has passed, except when otherwise directed by a police officer.

(2) This section does not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of persons using the highway.

(3) A person who violates this section is responsible for a civil infraction.

http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-257-653
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Well lucky I haven't been ticketed in the last 15 years. Thanks for that. Keep up the good work.
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Not making excuses but cars are getting more and more sound proof and the sound systems are getting better so it can be very hard to hear the sirens at times.

This does not make up for the idiots you speak of though.
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Well lucky I haven't been ticketed in the last 15 years. Thanks for that. Keep up the good work.
Most of the time, we don't give a shit whether you actually come to a complete stop or not, so long as you're not in the way. The DashCams we have in the trucks now have a button you can hit to manually record, and it will save the last 30 seconds and the next thirty seconds from when you hit the button. I've been told that if someone is being a complete assbag, we can hit the button in the hopes that it will get their license plate, and that our supervisor will forward the video to PD.

The swerve from trying to avoid the Grand Cherokee was enough to set off the automatic record, so hopefully they can get some video of this doucher.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 08:19 AM   #29
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Not making excuses but cars are getting more and more sound proof and the sound systems are getting better so it can be very hard to hear the sirens at times.

This does not make up for the idiots you speak of though.
I can definitely understand this, and we've been told of it before. They're contemplating getting those "warbler" systems that basically run a projected sound wave from the front of your vehicle and it shakes the hell out of whoever is in front of you.

I almost understand people who don't notice us coming up to an intersection, which is why we have the 3-second-stop rule for approaching red lights while running hot. Stop, wait 3 seconds for traffic to clear, then proceed. It's the people in front of us that piss me off the most. If they can't hear us, they must be able to see the giant flashing light epilepsy factory coming up in their rear view mirror.
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I can definitely understand this, and we've been told of it before. They're contemplating getting those "warbler" systems that basically run a projected sound wave from the front of your vehicle and it shakes the hell out of whoever is in front of you.

I almost understand people who don't notice us coming up to an intersection, which is why we have the 3-second-stop rule for approaching red lights while running hot. Stop, wait 3 seconds for traffic to clear, then proceed. It's the people in front of us that piss me off the most. If they can't hear us, they must be able to see the giant flashing light epilepsy factory coming up in their rear view mirror.
I hate driving because of idiots not to mention the pace you guys go at to save peoples lives.
That sounds like a cool add on, but it will probably only help in small doses, people are oblivious and ignorant.
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Not making excuses but cars are getting more and more sound proof and the sound systems are getting better so it can be very hard to hear the sirens at times.

This does not make up for the idiots you speak of though.
Even my HHR panel is pretty quiet inside. It's just a stock radio- not even the 'premium' system with the subwoofer, and I've been surprised by approaching emergency vehicles.

I imagine a Cadillac with 10,000 watts of bass would never know you are there.
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People are idiots, 6 years ago I got rearended when I stopped at an intersection for a firetruck, 7 years ago I got rearended when a school bus turned its reflashers on.

I typically roll for a while after pulling over, but, my truck is 65' long, and I'm preying the driveway(s) I am blocking are not the one they are looking for.
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Question: What is the rule about pulling over when you are on a four lane road (two in each direction) and the ambulance is approaching.

I always pull over to the side, unlike the black GC, but was curious.
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I went to high school with a girl that rear ended an ambulance and totalled it and her Toyota truck, they had to call another ambulance to transport the patient.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #36
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Question: What is the rule about pulling over when you are on a four lane road (two in each direction) and the ambulance is approaching.

I always pull over to the side, unlike the black GC, but was curious.
As far as I know, the rule is still the same. You're supposed to pull to the right and stop. I think the only two exceptions are highways, where there are several (as in, more than 2) lanes of traffic; and divided roads/ highways.

On the expressway, people usually just get out of our way. On divided highways, people on the opposing side of traffic don't have to stop, but people going the same way as us do.

I'm not a cop or lawyer though, so I'm not sure if that's the law or accepted behavior though.
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I didn't get too good of a look at it, because I was too busy hanging on for dear life in the pt compartment and just caught a glimpse of the truck out the rear window. I believe it was a ZJ with maybe a small budget boost. GL4x4 sticker on the back window, all tinted out.

I will donate all of my casino cash for any pics posted of said vehicle with a giant rubber dong attached to the front bumper.
I think I saw that GC parked near me I will try and get a pic for you.

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Question: What is the rule about pulling over when you are on a four lane road (two in each direction) and the ambulance is approaching.

I always pull over to the side, unlike the black GC, but was curious.
The only time you are permitted to NOT pull as far as safety possible and stop is when you are on a 4 lane DIVIDED highway, and the emergency vehicle is going the other direction. If they are going to same direction, you are required to stop.

If ever in doubt, think, if this is a school bus with their flashers on, what would I do. Same thing, except get as far to the right as possible.
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I went to high school with a girl that rear ended an ambulance and totalled it and her Toyota truck, they had to call another ambulance to transport the patient.
That's horrible, I've had 2 ambulance rides and I can't imagine that happening on top of what's already happening.
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I think this may go back to the issue of people in our society being too self absorbed to even care to pull over. Clearly, where they are going and their priorities are much more important than the person who may be dying. This morning I was leaving my sub and had stopped for a bus who was picking up kids, and this woman in a little car goes cruizing around me and past the bus even though the red lights are flashing.
What is wrong with people?
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