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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:15 PM   #1
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Default Deciding on a d44 front (hp44,dodge,waggy)

So I have been looking for Ford welded wedge hpd44 to match my Ford 9" rear since about October and with no luck, and when I do see one its in the UP or I'm broke.

So with that said, I have 3 other choices if I don't find one within the next few months

1) I could get a cast wedge hp44 and retube it.

2) I currently have a lp44 from a 70 something dodge, its a passenger drop so I could just retube it and run that.

C) Get a waggy lp44 and just run it with 1.25" spacers to match the rear.

So what would you kids do?

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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:27 PM   #2
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I used a waggy 44 front myself. then I made the rear match the front using adapters.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:30 PM   #3
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Oops, forgot to mention I'm running a Ford 9" rear. Haha
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:37 PM   #4
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I used a waggy 44 front myself. then I made the rear match the front using adapters.
How is yours setup? Gears/locker and tires? How is it holding up.
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Why not run a 44hp from f250 and weld new mounts for coils and link mounts? Or is that too wide for the 9 inch?
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:42 PM   #6
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Retubing isn't worth it to me unless its a built axle go with the s
Waggy axle or continue looking for what you really want
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:43 PM   #7
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why not run a 44hp from f250 and weld new mounts for coils and link mounts? Or is that too wide for the 9 inch?
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Why not run a 44hp from f250 and weld new mounts for coils and link mounts? Or is that too wide for the 9 inch?
I'd love to but I can't find one. Every Ford 44 I've came across is 78/79 with cast wedges. I'd like a 250 front since they have the thicker tubes as well, but they seem to be non-existent
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I'd love to but I can't find one. Every Ford 44 I've came across is 78/79 with cast wedges. I'd like a 250 front since they have the thicker tubes as well, but they seem to be non-existent
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/pts/2794633634.html

$350 for complete axle. Just have to look around. Took me about 4-6 months of looking for my 79 F250 Dana 44. Found one on here, but was bare housing for $75.
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Skip the 44 and get a Dana 60 is what I would do.
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Skip the 44 and get a Dana 60 is what I would do.
x2 that's what I did, let me just link to some great reading material already here
save your pennies.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 09:41 PM   #12
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http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/pts/2794633634.html

$350 for complete axle. Just have to look around. Took me about 4-6 months of looking for my 79 F250 Dana 44. Found one on here, but was bare housing for $75.
I thought everything past 78 had cast wedges? Or did the 250 continue with leaves?

This may be part of my problem haha. I've read the 3main d44 info sights but from what I understood is the hd 44s were rare as fukc and and every thing past 78 had cast wedges for the radius arms.


As for a 60, ill do that on a full frame rig somewhere down the line if my xj becomes fubar or I just want another rig, but for my grandma style wheeling, and lighter xj I'm confident a 44 will be ok.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 09:51 PM   #13
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Let me also add that I am not going to a 44 front for the strength, I would of been content with a d30/8.8 setup, but because I wanted 5.13 gears I went with a 44/9.
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The broncos and f150 had cast wedges and coils on 78. The f250/350 had leaf springs. I believe the f250/350 went to coils in 80.
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http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/pts/2834302334.html ????
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Maby I should start searching CL without the pictures only selected, to me if you don't have time or care to post pictures, you don't want to sell it that bad, or its in god awful condition. Guess ill have to give it a go.

Plus like I said, I have been looking for 76/77 only the whole time. So thank you guys verry much.
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I'm going to give you a couple answer which may possibly make your decision even tougher... sorry.

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How is yours setup? Gears/locker and tires? How is it holding up.
YJ, 5.13 gears, Aussie locker, Warn Lockouts, 35" MTR's on aluminum rims, Flat top knuckles with high steer arms on spacers, 1/4" DOM tie rod and drag link using 1 ton Chevy TRE's, stock shafts, spicer u-joints. The only thing that has broken on it was a lockout (milemarker) and that was because it wasn't fully engaged. Rounded the teeth off, stub shaft was fine. I built the axle in early 2007 and I wheel pretty hard about 5-6 times per year. I drive the jeep on the street most the summer. No complaints at all. I'm really not worried about breaking it. You'll save around 130 pounds over a Dana 60

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As much as I hate to admit it, Rich is right... By the time I spent all the money making my 44 what I wanted, I wasn't too far off from having a 60. The biggest difference is the axle itself. Other parts can cost more too but the biggest one is the axle. I would say I was about $600 short from having one. $600 bucks is still alot though and may break the sale. If I had to do it again, I'd try get a 60.

Biggest problem with the 44 is the u-joints and ears.
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Actually I think it helps you are running it how I would plan on running one, 5.13s and 35s, but how hard is hard for you? Hard for me is useing the gas pedal haha.

As for the 60 price, I understand its not much more for to build one, shit it would have been cheeper since I allready had a 60 rear in my ram (scraped now) but like I've said don't need it (yet anyway) and if I decide on it for my Cherokee, I could allwase swap the 44/9 into my daily Cherokee haha.
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Yeah I'm running a 78 hp 44 from a f250 had to convert it to 5 lug but it was a leaf spring axle.
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You have never stated what tires you plan to run or your anticipated style of wheeling. Although the 60 makes sense in so many ways, don't forget that if you are staying with a shorter tire (<37) the 60 becomes a plow.
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