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Old February 20th, 2012, 10:21 AM   #21
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Well be happy. All mine does is flexes. It does not ride strait...
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Old February 20th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #22
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why dosnt it ride straight? u got a radius setup or 4 or 3link? just courous and thanks for all the info
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Old February 20th, 2012, 04:14 PM   #23
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To much to explain, I have a thread on it.
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Old February 20th, 2012, 07:06 PM   #24
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well talked to rustys and sent a few pics there way and they asked me to remove trac bar and give it a try without it and i did and now it flexs like crazy and it loose. so any thoughts on how to solve this prob? over axle trac bar with heim joints?
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Old February 20th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #25
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what did rusty's tell you to do? I mean they told you what to do but no other options to fix it if it was the track bar? Yours is probably a stock one and with over 8 inches of lift thats not going to work.
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Old February 20th, 2012, 09:43 PM   #26
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havent herd back from them yet. didnt get to try it till after 7 when i got off work. i got a tracbar from them for this 8" lift so i will asume its right one but i guess its possable its not. would a highter mounted trac bar belp?
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Old February 21st, 2012, 07:20 AM   #27
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You have to keep the same geometry between your trac and your steering so there not fighting each other
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Old February 21st, 2012, 07:42 AM   #28
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Is it a double sheer track bar? (Bushing on both ends) The reason I ask is because I have a RE track bar that has a heim on the frame and and it binds when the suspension droops.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 12:13 PM   #29
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Is it a double sheer track bar? (Bushing on both ends) The reason I ask is because I have a RE track bar that has a heim on the frame and and it binds when the suspension droops.
I think you don't know what double sheer means
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Old February 21st, 2012, 01:06 PM   #30
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Is it a double sheer track bar? (Bushing on both ends) The reason I ask is because I have a RE track bar that has a heim on the frame and and it binds when the suspension droops.


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Old February 21st, 2012, 02:52 PM   #31
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i understand the trac bar and the steering have to be parallel but i dont have steering hooked up at the moment so trac bar is binding on itself. it is a trac bar with bushing on axle side and a greasable joint on other side but dont look like a flex joint but it might be. def not a heim. is it ok to run heim on both side of trac bar to increase its flexability or is the a bad idea? havent done anything withheim joints so pardon my ignorance. and if dbl heim joint on trac bar is ok does it require a missaligmnet washers or when do u have to use them since i see ill prob have to go crossover steering soi guess everything will be on heim joints now. i do really appricate all your guys help one good thing about this site there are alot of guys who actually build shit and dont just read about it.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 03:47 PM   #32
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dont know if helps but here is a pic of the trac bar angle at ride heigth
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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:11 PM   #33
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I think it is the angle of the track bar and the long arms. The lowers being mounted wider than the uppers is holding the front axle some what centered. The track bar is at such an extreme angle as the suspension cycles it is trying to push the axle side to side a lot and the long arms aren't allowing it to move. Get it finished and see how it does with some weight on it. Just my .02
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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:14 PM   #34
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I'm guessing with the passenger side stationary the drivers side will flex more than if you leave the drivers side stationary and move the passengers side.

I'm wondering if you raised up your axle side track bar mounting point and dropped the frame side bracket down and got a drop pitman arm to match if that would solve the issue.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:45 PM   #35
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I'm guessing with the passenger side stationary the drivers side will flex more than if you leave the drivers side stationary and move the passengers side.

I'm wondering if you raised up your axle side track bar mounting point and dropped the frame side bracket down and got a drop pitman arm to match if that would solve the issue.
If it is an 8" lift and it did not come with a drop Pitman and a drop bracket for the trac bar than that is your problem.
I had an 8" long arm lift. It came with drop pitman, drop track bar bracket, drop trac bar and I still had to drill a hole in the original mount on the axel about 3/4 of an inch to the right of the stock hole to make mine all work correctly
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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:58 PM   #36
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it did come with drop arm and trac bar brackets. how did u figure the 3/4" towards driver side part out? i can redrill hole if needed but how did u determin how much?
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it is binding up when trying to lift the drivers side. i can lift and lower passenger side with no prob
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Old February 21st, 2012, 05:05 PM   #38
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it is binding up when trying to lift the drivers side. i can lift and lower passenger side with no prob
Ya when it is hanging all the way down. If you are at ride height the drivers will flex and the passenger side won't. That is because the track bar is stationary when the drivers side moves up and down.
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Grab a chair and a beer and sit in front of your jeep and look at way everything moves and binds.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 05:49 PM   #40
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it did come with drop arm and trac bar brackets. how did u figure the 3/4" towards driver side part out? i can redrill hole if needed but how did u determin how much?
My trac bar had the full hime threaded out and my axel still was not center of the jeep. That is (I believe) the only reason that hole would need to be drilled.
There was no science to it, drill the same size hole just to the right of your old one. ( make sure you leave some meat for strength, don't get too crazy)
For you it will get some of your hime threads back in the bung.( by looking at your pic is a good idea)
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