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Old February 15th, 2012, 01:48 PM   #141
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I found what I did on figure 2. It shows all ages of women having abortions
There is a ton of reading there.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #142
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Adolescents aged <15 years obtained <1.0% of all abortions in the 48 areas that reported age.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 01:55 PM   #143
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Old February 15th, 2012, 02:06 PM   #144
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I found what I did on figure 2. It shows all ages of women having abortions
There is a ton of reading there.
Ok, I'll interpret it for you, that's a ratio (in abortions:births). Not many 14 year olds and under are giving birth in the US, so when you compare the number using that criteria is can appear shocking

So the ratio of <15 year olds who get an abortion vs. <15 year olds who give birth is high. If you were to put it in a ratio of number of <15 year olds who get abortions vs. total number of abortions from all age groups it would be very low (which would represent the <1.0% of all abortions figure).

Presenting stats and making graphs is kind of an art depending how you want your outcome to appear.

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Old February 15th, 2012, 02:08 PM   #145
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According to the CDC almost 1 in 3 of all abortions are commited on young girls UNDER THE AGE OF 15.
This is from the center of disease control. You can look it up for yourself. Or I can provide the link but it is real long. If you want it just ask.
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I found what I did on figure 2. It shows all ages of women having abortions
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How in the fukc do you get your conclusion from that graph?

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Old February 15th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #146
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How in the fukc do you get your conclusion from that graph?
Where is Batman? He needs to come bail out Robin's retarded ass....AGAIN.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 06:23 PM   #147
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Ok, I'll interpret it for you, that's a ratio (in abortions:births). Not many 14 year olds and under are giving birth in the US, so when you compare the number using that criteria is can appear shocking

So the ratio of <15 year olds who get an abortion vs. <15 year olds who give birth is high. If you were to put it in a ratio of number of <15 year olds who get abortions vs. total number of abortions from all age groups it would be very low (which would represent the <1.0% of all abortions figure).

Presenting stats and making graphs is kind of an art depending how you want your outcome to appear.
Thanks now that you put it that way. It did seem high looking at it in a ratio from abortion/births.
At any rate the amount of abortions is way too much.
When you have babies being aborted in the hundreds of thousands per year that is not good.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #148
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How in the fukc do you get your conclusion from that graph?

Where is Batman? He needs to come bail out Robin's retarded ass....AGAIN.
I got that from a quote that was with the graph from another site.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 07:11 PM   #149
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How in the fukc do you get your conclusion from that graph?

Where is Batman? He needs to come bail out Robin's retarded ass....AGAIN.
I am subbing for one of the church van drivers tonight. Typing this on my I touch. I tend to steer clear of lengthy subjects when I a typing on it.

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Old February 15th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #150
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Abortion is awesome.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 07:22 PM   #151
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I am subbing for one of the church van drivers tonight. Typing this on my I touch. I tend to steer clear of lengthy subjects when I a typing on it.

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yeah, its a proven fact that ipods make you trendy, not illiterate.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 08:49 PM   #152
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Abortion is awesome.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 09:58 PM   #153
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I haven't read any of this dribble, but I'm pretty sure Sova masturbated to the fact that he got you guys to argue pointlessly for 8 pages...
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Old February 15th, 2012, 10:05 PM   #154
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Nick - that's the problem I face when I read debates like this: I don't know. And, based upon not being sure about this - I don't think I have the right to tell someone what they can do with their own body. I'm also not thrilled with the idea of killing a child in the womb. I'm much more "Pro-contraception" than anything else.

Personally, I think it would be acceptable to sterilize a couple post-abortion; bringing life into the world is a gift, fuck it up and lose that gift.
I'll buy that line of logic for a dollar.
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Old February 16th, 2012, 05:06 PM   #155
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And I totally respect that view. Personally, I'm no better a judge than anyone else to say when life starts - I just know how I feel about an individual's rights: (to me) the mother has more rights than a few week old embryo. I have no business telling someone what they can or can't do to their body.

Just like I cannot tell you I *know* there is *not* a god - I don't know, but that shouldn't allow me to discount your views as wrong just because they don't match mine.

I completely understand the "Christian" viewpoint of "Life begins at conception", but I've also heard many of the same folks say "God willing" or "God has his reasons" as if he is manipulating things for a greater good or toward an end we're not able to comprehend.

Serious question / thought provoker here: What if God is leading these abortions out of a sense of mercy? The soul of an aborted child may be given another chance in another womb of a mother that will love and care for her newborn and provide a good life.
Good question. It skims the borders of getting into Predestination, which I don't want to do, but I really did think about this for a day or too.

Here's my best guess. My God is a Loving God who values life. He wouldn't, in his own will, kill an innocent child. He is Merciful but he also tends to use people in the worse situations to do the most work in his kingdom. Moses was a drunk, David killed his mistresses husband, ETC. If you skim over some of the pivital stories in the OT you can see that he uses people that we might consider skum of the earth (if we were in that Culture and time period) to further his story. In fact, I've seen many kids that have come from broken homes except Christ and are some of the most loving and caring people I know. The reason being is they feel like they have more reason to love God because their parents didn't. They feel like they have worth in God's eyes when they didn't in thier parents.

My Second thought that came to mind is that Abortion is a product of the fall of man. Broken relationships, sex out side of marriage, all those things are results of sin. I'd be curious to see how many babies are aborted from Couples/families that we would consider healthy. Granted, there are times when the baby/mommy will both die, that's a tough call. That reason being I don't think it should be completely banned, just very heavily regulated and very seldom performed.

Other then that reason, I can't think of any unselfish reason to abort a child. Which, IMO, isn't loving it and is neglecting your responsibility for making woopie.

As far as Souls go. I don't think they are interchangable. I would go as far to say that when life is first happening is the birth of the soul. Just like you grow fingers and toes, the mixture of your parents also gives you a unique soul. That's just my random thought. It's not really theologically based (kind of).


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Old February 17th, 2012, 07:01 AM   #156
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I just heard the best joke about this. A santorum supporter, old guy, said that back in his day they used aspirin for contraception. "The gals would hold a aspirin between their knees".
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Old February 17th, 2012, 07:03 AM   #157
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I just heard the best joke about this. A santorum supporter, old guy, said that back in his day they used aspirin for contraception. "The gals would hold a aspirin between their knees".
A.I.D.S. preventative: Sit down and keep you mouth shut.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 07:46 AM   #158
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Old February 17th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #159
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I draw the line at; the employer has the right to decide what benefits it provides to its employees. Employees do not have the right to force their employer to provide benefits it does not wish to provide, for whatever reason.
Yeah, what he said.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 09:16 PM   #160
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Yeah, what he said.
I think he should just stay on topic and stop being so rational.
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