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Old February 11th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #61
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So what your saying is the pope is not a Christian man. Granting immunity for future sins is what he did with the vows the granted for the crusade. The pope is "the voice of your god". So the pope killed in the name of your god plain and simple.
Man cannot grant immunity for sin, only God.[/QUOTE]

To bad they failed. . .
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Old February 11th, 2012, 07:10 PM   #62
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So what your saying is the pope is not a Christian man. Granting immunity for future sins is what he did with the vows the granted for the crusade. The pope is "the voice of your god". So the pope killed in the name of your god plain and simple.
Man cannot grant immunity for sin, only God.[/QUOTE]

My point is that you are quick to bring up Hitler but will not acknowledge your own religion doing the same thing.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 07:33 PM   #63
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Man cannot grant immunity for sin, only God.
My point is that you are quick to bring up Hitler but will not acknowledge your own religion doing the same thing. [/QUOTE]

Or point out that he used the fact that the "jews killed jesus" to rile up the masses against them. Whether he was a christian or not doesn't mean he didnt use the religion to kill millions of people. (I know he had other anti jewish rhetoric, but this was a component)
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Old February 11th, 2012, 08:59 PM   #64
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My point is that you are quick to bring up Hitler but will not acknowledge your own religion doing the same thing.
Or point out that he used the fact that the "jews killed jesus" to rile up the masses against them. Whether he was a christian or not doesn't mean he didnt use the religion to kill millions of people. (I know he had other anti jewish rhetoric, but this was a component)[/QUOTE]

I don't know enough about hitler to know if it was his twisted mind control Or what but from what I have read and heard hitler as a young man did have a belief of God but as he got more and more into his own head he removed God from his belief.
Maybe digging up more info on hitler may be some good reading into what made him tick.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 09:02 PM   #65
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Man cannot grant immunity for sin, only God.
My point is that you are quick to bring up Hitler but will not acknowledge your own religion doing the same thing. [/QUOTE]

Religion can make man do dangerous things in the name of God, but a relationship with Jesus is completely different. Its a hard thing to describe to somebody who is not sure about God.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 09:14 PM   #66
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Or point out that he used the fact that the "jews killed jesus" to rile up the masses against them. Whether he was a christian or not doesn't mean he didnt use the religion to kill millions of people. (I know he had other anti jewish rhetoric, but this was a component)
I don't know enough about hitler to know if it was his twisted mind control Or what but from what I have read and heard hitler as a young man did have a belief of God but as he got more and more into his own head he removed God from his belief.
Maybe digging up more info on hitler may be some good reading into what made him tick.[/QUOTE]

Like going to the Holocaust Museum??? Like I did just two weeks ago
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Old February 11th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #67
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My point is that you are quick to bring up Hitler but will not acknowledge your own religion doing the same thing.
Religion can make man do dangerous things in the name of God, but a relationship with Jesus is completely different. Its a hard thing to describe to somebody who is not sure about God.[/QUOTE]

There you go back to the same bullshit. You can't confront the problems with your god so you just say that I'm the one who just doesn't understand.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 09:27 PM   #68
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I don't know enough about hitler to know if it was his twisted mind control Or what but from what I have read and heard hitler as a young man did have a belief of God but as he got more and more into his own head he removed God from his belief.
Maybe digging up more info on hitler may be some good reading into what made him tick.
Like going to the Holocaust Museum??? Like I did just two weeks ago [/QUOTE]

That sounds like a great idea, thanks.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 09:28 PM   #69
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Religion can make man do dangerous things in the name of God, but a relationship with Jesus is completely different. Its a hard thing to describe to somebody who is not sure about God.

There you go back to the same bullshit. You can't confront the problems with your god so you just say that I'm the one who just doesn't understand.[/QUOTE]

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Old February 11th, 2012, 09:38 PM   #70
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Like going to the Holocaust Museum??? Like I did just two weeks ago
That sounds like a great idea, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, it's awful to see but informative and historical. I would recommend going.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #71
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There you go back to the same bullshit. You can't confront the problems with your god so you just say that I'm the one who just doesn't understand.
^^^^^^^^^^^in red[/QUOTE]

In red means your still ignoring your own falts, keep making my point. Good job!!!
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Old February 11th, 2012, 10:50 PM   #72
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Old February 11th, 2012, 11:28 PM   #73
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Religion can make man do dangerous things in the name of God, but a relationship with Jesus is completely different. Its a hard thing to describe to somebody who is not sure about God.
There you go back to the same bullshit. You can't confront the problems with your god so you just say that I'm the one who just doesn't understand.
I have been in many religious discussions with aderr69. I no longer paticipate because I try to have an intellegent discussion and it's always one sided.

You have a better chance of teaching an old car tire the truth than getting aber to listen to anything but is own bullshit.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 08:10 AM   #74
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Aber your avatar proves that the catholic church is still promoting the crusades.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 08:21 AM   #75
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wow. 40 million abortions in the USA so far. just think about how bad our situation would be if there were 40 million+ more americans running around.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #76
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Arguing with Aber is like arguing with a seagull.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #77
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Arguing with Aber is like arguing with a retarded seagull.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #78
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I have to say again in this thread that anytime anyone does something disgusting in the name of Aber's christ, he insists that they aren't christian. However, dirty murderous people of any other religion are just represting their naughty christian killing religion.
I wish everytime my employees or friends did something naughty I could just say they aren't my peeps and not have to admit to having any faults in my crew either...
Christians have done horrible things. There, I said it, BUT....

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You conveniently left out over two hundred years of history. The pope sponsored killing of countless people but it was ok it was in the name of your god.
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So what your saying is the pope is not a Christian man. Granting immunity for future sins is what he did with the vows the granted for the crusade. The pope is "the voice of your god". So the pope killed in the name of your god plain and simple.
..... Christians don't often do Christian things. I think What aber is trying to say is that it's not God's will that these thngs happened but mans will using religion (which is a man made construct) to control people. Any time someone can control a large group of people, the temptation for Corruption is there. It's our nature.

If you look at Christ's Teaching you'll very quickly see that he taught that we should love people. The Early Catholic (Universal, not ROMAN Catholic) church had the right idea. After the church grew, just like any other large organization, it became corrupt by people fighting for power. Both Clergy AND those on the throne. This is actually one of the reasons the early churches supported "Separation of Church and State", So the government couldn't use the church to control people. Because they left the Roman Catholic Church because it was corrupt and doing things that didn't line up with the bible.


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But if you believe in the history of your religion, didn't God himself hit the reset switch on humanity, killing all the sinners and non believers and everything else (including children who never had a chance at life).
Yeah, he flooded the earth. The difference here is that HE IS GOD, so he's the one who gives us life and it's his right to take it away. He's the Judge and I'm glad he is because I don't feel like I should be making judgements on who should/should not live. Also don't forget that he did save Noah and his family because of Noahs Righteousness.

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Aber your avatar proves that the catholic church is still promoting the crusades.
The Roman Catholic Church is no longer promoting the Crusades. Neither is the Catholic Church. Yes there is a Difference. I'm not entirely sure why you think his Avatar has anything to do with it.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #79
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Who the fukc are you? aber needs back up now because he starts shit that he can't finish.
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You need to look up your history my friend.
You conveniently left out over two hundred years of history. The pope sponsored killing of countless people but it was ok it was in the name of your god.[/QUOTE]

The screwed up Quotes started here with dietcoke
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