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Old February 7th, 2012, 04:36 PM   #1
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well guys i am finally building the shop of my dreams. i am starting to look at some nice tools for fabricating on my jeep. i already have all the hand and air tools i will need. i am looking for a mig welder, tubing bender and notcher. i already have a plasma cutter also

so here is my question, i have a big jeep on one tons but the thickest piece of steel on it is 3/8" steel skid plate. so should i look for a welder that only goes taht high or bigger? i was looking at a hobart 210. it seems like a good set up or a miller 211. or should i go bigger? i am only going to be fabbing roll cages and bumpers and such, not building full on tube chassis.

second what do you guys think about a pro bend 32 vertical bender? it can bend 2" .250 wall tubing and can be pulled into the corner when not in use.

and last what knotcher should i buy? i have a big enough corded drill to run one...

thanks a lot guys i will be buying this stuff very soon
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Old February 7th, 2012, 04:40 PM   #2
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I love my Miller 211. Of course I am by no means an experienced welder other then what I've learned from practice. I love the flexibility of it with both the 110v and 220v plugs. It's handled everything I've thrown at it up to and including 1/2".
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Old February 7th, 2012, 04:49 PM   #3
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how is it for small projects? id like to get into tig but not at this time
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Old February 7th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #4
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I just did exhaust with it before Snofari. Swapped it down to the 110v plug and it did just fine. I'm sure it would have done fine with 220v but I just kept burning through the metal. Of course it took me a little bit to get used to the thinner material.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 05:01 PM   #5
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thats what im looking for! im pretty set on either one of these welders!
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Old February 7th, 2012, 05:14 PM   #6
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I plan on buying the Miller 211 soon. I currently have the JD2 model 3 bender with the Harbor Freight air/hydro conversion and it works great. I just got the JD2 TN-100 notcher, have yet to use it, but I bet its miles ahead of my Harbor Freight notcher that I'm using currently
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Old February 7th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #7
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Have the pro3 bender. Like that it is on wheels and can move it out of the way when not in use and position it and move it when bending long pieces to go up between the rafters.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 06:02 PM   #8
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yeah im torn between the pro32 or pro4. with the pro32 you need to move the pin more time to get a bend. but its stronger. what are you guys using for a notcher?
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Old February 7th, 2012, 06:07 PM   #9
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i have the hobart 210 and i love it..welds very good and handles anything i throw at it..
and it is a miller welder all parts for it come right from miller and even says miller on the gun...
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Old February 7th, 2012, 06:15 PM   #10
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The HF notcher is a POS. At least I made it through my bumper before it broke. Can't recommend one, but I can tell you one not to get....
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Old February 7th, 2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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"Shop of my dreams" and "harbor freight" should NEVER be used in the same story.

Ive got a miller 250 mig, love it. The jd2 notcher has always worked great for me. Was considering switching to one thatll do offset notches.

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Old February 7th, 2012, 07:26 PM   #12
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Any of the big three brand welders are good. I use a JD3 bender and I think there notcher too. I. Use a Hobart welder and love it. In fact 4 of my friends have them and a couple are abused daily and work great. As long as you buy decent you can't go wrong.
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I have a miller 212 and love it. A friend has a 211 and in my eyes the 211 I the best all around use use bang for the buck. 211 is about 1200$ and 212 was 1600$ Great welder. I bought the 212 because I want a full size welder. 211 and 212 are basically the same welder.. 212 is 220v only though.
As for the bender I have a Woodward fab. Will run you about 2500$ Works excellent! You can buy 90* dies or 180* dies. It is 110v over hydraulic. I love it.
And my notcher is also from Woodward fab. It was 75$ works awesome.
Woodward fab is in heartland Michigan. Support local shops!
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yeah i talked to airgas today about welders today. and he steered me towards the 211. i will buy that or a hobart 210. they had them sitting side by side and compared them. it was nice to see the differences. im still stuck on the pb32 or 4 for a bender. anyone have one? i like how it dont take up space because i dont have taht much space to work with!!
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yeah i talked to airgas today about welders today. and he steered me towards the 211. i will buy that or a hobart 210. they had them sitting side by side and compared them. it was nice to see the differences. im still stuck on the pb32 or 4 for a bender. anyone have one? i like how it dont take up space because i dont have taht much space to work with!!
Spend the extra few hundo and get the 211.. Way better internals than the Hobart. Don't get me wrong, I was making this same decision a few months ago. I also was looking twards Hobart. Changed my mind at the last minute. Fact is the miller will last longer. Made from better parts. Steel gears instead of nylon is what sold me. When your spending that kind of money you want it to last a long ass time...
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Old February 9th, 2012, 07:07 AM   #16
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Another option, if you would like to save some money is the Lincoln 180HD. Thats what i bought and i only paid like $650 shipped on ebay. Its a very impressive welder for the price. Plenty of power to weld your 3/8 plate.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 07:13 AM   #17
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I have an ESAB 250 and I'm very happy with it. My business partner is running the Miller and I think it has a smoother burn and is easier to use than mine. He is kicking around selling it to switch up to a larger unit since we are getting busier. If you are interested, I can get you the specs on it.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #18
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just let me know when to bring jeep to stated "dream shop". i have some projects :)
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whatever welder you decided on purchasing.. go the next step up. Seriously. if you plan on doing ANY kinda of fab work on a regular basis dont go with anything smaller than a power mig 210 or equivalent
than it comes down to whether you want a blue or red machine. miller has better customer service i understand.. My dad and I bought a Lincoln because airgas handles the warranty on them.
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Old February 9th, 2012, 10:43 AM   #20
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I have a older millermatic200. Works great. But save your money on a notcher. I use my chop saw to do notches. There is some info on this about 2/3 the way down.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Links/
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