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Old October 3rd, 2006, 09:53 PM   #1
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I'll put NSFW just cuz it deals with an illegal substance and the site has other "things"(ie.erotica).

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/legal_...ena174144.html

About a 4 or 5 minute read, whats your opinion?
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Old October 3rd, 2006, 10:03 PM   #2
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#1 you're a slow reader.

#2 Making it more affordable for poor people is not a good reason to make pot legal.

#3 i don't have a problem legalizing pot. I don't think it's any better or worse for people that alcohol or tobacco.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 01:31 AM   #3
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#1 you're a slow reader.

#2 Making it more affordable for poor people is not a good reason to make pot legal.

#3 i don't have a problem legalizing pot. I don't think it's any better or worse for people that alcohol or tobacco.
you hit the nail on the head, brewmen....


I agree whole-heartedly with all of the above. I used to smoke the stuff, but I choose not to anymore (well, and the D.O.T. chooses for me as well )

I do have problems with some other drugs out there (such as those that are cooked, etc..) those should definitely be regulated.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 07:12 AM   #4
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My Whole Viewpoint........

Drugs such as Heroin and Cocaine have to be DERIVED from a plant, processed etc.
Crystal Meth has to be cooked, processed etc.

Marijuana is a naturally Growing plant, just like tobacco. And is used in the exact same fashion. You pick the leaves, dry them, smoke them, not too hard.
And Marijuana doesn't ADD anything like nicotine, tar, etc, all natural.


Anyways I strongly believe one of the reasons Pot will never be legalized is the simple fact that too many government officials, police officers etc are making too much money in pay-offs while it is illegal, and they do not want to lose that income
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Old October 4th, 2006, 08:28 AM   #5
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If normal tobaco was illigal you would not get it changed in this day and age either , think he has more to do with public health . If they could pick up the tax money else where that there making on cigs you would see them become illigal too
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Old October 4th, 2006, 10:38 AM   #6
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Old October 4th, 2006, 10:56 AM   #7
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MJ changes behavior in a far greater fashion than tobacco. If it were legalized, then we would have more idiots than we have now. And yes, it IS a gateway drug, and I don't care if you have been the exception to the rule. Don't think of yourself in terms of legalizing pot usage, think of our society, our youth, etc. In other words, think bigger than your own need to escape this cruel world. Everyone thought casino gambling was great for Detroit, but it has further damaged our already hurting city. Legalizing pot or any other questionable item would only serve to harm us more as a society. We need LESS reasons for people to become deadbeats, not more.

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1. For example, if a person is already poor and smokes, let's say, an ounce a week, this could total up to between $100 to $500 a month. That's more money than some people spend on cigarettes and everyone knows how expensive that can get. Where does this guy get the money?

2. By banning the use of pot the government is creating more crime, poverty, and suffering, rather than helping the people.
1. Boo Hoo Hoo, I feel terrible for the guy with no job who can't afford to get high, boo hoo hoo. Asking where he can get the money is rediculous, the correct question to ask is where can we get him help to overcome his addiction?

2. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha Riiiiiiiiight

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Old October 4th, 2006, 11:00 AM   #8
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Old October 4th, 2006, 11:07 AM   #9
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And Marijuana doesn't ADD anything like nicotine, tar, etc, all natural.


Natural or not its got 3-5 times the amount of tar tobacco has in it.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 11:28 AM   #11
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MJ changes behavior in a far greater fashion than tobacco. If it were legalized, then we would have more idiots than we have now. And yes, it IS a gateway drug, and I don't care if you have been the exception to the rule. Don't think of yourself in terms of legalizing pot usage, think of our society, our youth, etc. In other words, think bigger than your own need to escape this cruel world. Everyone thought casino gambling was great for Detroit, but it has further damaged our already hurting city. Legalizing pot or any other questionable item would only serve to harm us more as a society. We need LESS reasons for people to become deadbeats, not more.
Gotta agree there.

You look at someone who's smoked tobacco heavily all their life. Negating the effects of actual smoke inhallation, since the bad stuff will also happen from smoking weed, generally, you don't have major changes to someone. Kinda like caffeine: if they don't have it, they get cranky, etc.

You look at a heavy pot user, and the brain is effected.


One guy I used to work with used to be a HEAVY pot smoker. He didn't smoke on the job, which was good since we were operating bulldozers and driving class A trucks, but even so, the guy was f'd from it. He couldn't stand without swaying half the time. He had no memory, etc. Even after he cleaned up, he always seemed to be half-baked.
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I dont smoke anything of any sort, but I can see the case being made to legalize and tax it. If we legalize that and tax it though, are we going to reduce other taxes on things people actually need like gas? If not then no.
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If its legalized, should you be able to drive while smoking pot?
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Old October 4th, 2006, 11:56 AM   #14
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If its legalized, should you be able to drive while smoking pot?

Same as alcohol.

No.

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Old October 4th, 2006, 12:09 PM   #15
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I Smoked by the pound for years and im fine........





Now WTF were we talking about ??
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Old October 4th, 2006, 12:34 PM   #16
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I have not smoked in quite a while and the biggest difference that I have noticed is that I can breathe easier. I do believe that it should be legalized and taxed. Really, does anyone accually believe that weed is any less available than it was 10 years ago? Hell, if nothing else put the "weed tax" money to use in other problem areas.

I plan on throwin' down a 12 pack of beer tonight, how's that any different other than the fact that it's legal? I wont be driving anywhere and I wouldn't be if I was going to get high eather. I don't know what the answer is, but considering pot doesn't seem to be going away, I would say that something needs to change.
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Marijuana is a naturally Growing plant, just like tobacco. And is used in the exact same fashion. You pick theleaves, dry them, smoke them, not too hard.
Sandals what kind of hippie are you? Smoking Marijuana leaves does nothing except lead to a headache and bad cough... Pick and dry the buds or flower of the plant and woohoo cloud nine here you come.

I am some what torn on the legalization of pot or any drugs.
If the govt. leagalizes pot it would free up room in jails for real criminals but, US citizens are already fat and lazy enough. Taxes would make the govt money but not as much money as they make on court costs and fines from arrests for posession and distribution. In a way I would like to see it happen but I wouldn't go out and start getting high just because I could without it being Illegal. Oh and even if it was legal the police can give you an OUID if you appear high while driving but Marijuana stays in your systerm for 14-28 days depending on body-fat percentage and metabolism; so If you got high and 2 weekis later you crashed your car, you can or could be giiven an OUID which is a Felony. So legal or not the Government still would have a way to bend yopu over.
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Old October 4th, 2006, 01:55 PM   #18
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If you legalized pot there would bw no more speeders..
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Old October 4th, 2006, 02:04 PM   #19
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i dont think we need to let hardened criminals out early for people who were in possession for possesion of marijuana. That is so dumb i cant believe we do it, FINE its illegal fukc up someones record, tether them, make them jump through some hoops, sieze their car etc.... Do stuff like that, not waste jail space! Jail space is far too expensive at $40,000 per year for someone who isn't a dealer, and hasnt committed a violent crime. Either that or we need to start executing violent and all life sentance people right after the gavel falls .... there isn't room. Someone has to go.

I also think it should be legalized. It should be taxed, regulated, and controlled just like alcohol or tabacco and you can get weed with out it being laced, and have common brands that you like with a known quality you can enjoy.

I dont know why you can be convited of drive drunk like 20 times and be convicted of driving with out a license and not get 20 years in jail but a guy can drive sober and go to jail for gettting pulled over and have a dime bag on him. Weird, the law is so disproportionate.

Plus i know they dont care about the general health of the population cause we give well fare folks money and they can spend it on drugs, and the gubb'ment wont make them take regular drugs tests.

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I'm for legalization and taxation....no problem....it will quit all the drug nazi's from telling use we're contributing to terrorism by buying drugs. If we legalize it....grow it... and tax it all right here....then we're contributing to our own economy.....Ok so we can't just grow it anywhere....but look at all the wasted land in Idaho
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