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Old June 15th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #101
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Old June 15th, 2012, 09:29 PM   #102
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You can see I put angle down surrounding the hole and welded it in to a square. Than I bolted that to the floor with 20 some 3/8 bolts. Then I ran the c channel from wheel well to wheel well, welded it to the wheel well and stitch welded it to the angle surrounding the hole.
Once I get it Finnish welded and all supported like I want I plan on inclosing it all in tin so it will all still be under the truck
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Old June 15th, 2012, 09:46 PM   #103
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You have the shocks mounted so close to center on the axle you could have just run one and saved some money. Really dont see that working very well for stability.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #104
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I'm sure I will have to move everything again. My thought was that my air shocks barley worked so coilovers would work a lot better as far as being stable. So I kept the same side to side angle. I moved them out as far as I could so when it flexes the coil won't hit the side of the opening. If it does not work the way I have it than I have to cut in to my fender. That's what I was trying to avoid by keeping them close. But that's the next step if it needs it. I'm sure it will. I was second guessing it all as I was doing it. But luckily everything is only tacked so it won't be that hard to move it. Just a lot more cutting....
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #105
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that wont work to be honest. way to close togather. the shocks need to be alot straighter up then that.

to work correctly they need to be around a 15-25 degrees at the extreme angle to work correctly.

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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:05 PM   #106
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Won't be the first time I was wrong!
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #107
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #108
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Why not just build it closer to correct from the start? I bet the air shocks would have worked fine if they were mounted properly. I know you did not build it the first time but your fab work looks good why not spend a little more time now and not have to cut it all back apart.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:13 PM   #109
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Main deal is I was trying to avoid cutting the fenders.
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:14 PM   #110
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Like I said its all only tacked tougher as far as the mounts go. So it will be easy to change it. I had a feeling I'd have to change it any way because I'm afraid that it's going to ride to high in the rear once I get springs put on
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Old June 15th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #111
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All I've ever had previous to this is coil springs and leaf springs. This stuff is all kinda new to me. In my head it looks cool but i was not sure how it would work. All my friends have mud trucks with coilovers and there shit is all set up a lot deferent and for a deferent purpose so I rely don't have a model to go off and I'm kinda makin the stuff up as I go.
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Search. There are thousands of pictures of cherokees with coil overs, air shocks what ever go off that.
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All I've ever had previous to this is coil springs and leaf springs. This stuff is all kinda new to me. In my head it looks cool but i was not sure how it would work. All my friends have mud trucks with coilovers and there shit is all set up a lot deferent and for a deferent purpose so I rely don't have a model to go off and I'm kinda makin the stuff up as I go.
Why not do some research on what works and do it right the first time? What you are saying makes no sense. In summary you are saying "I know it won't work but I'll try it anyway and then change it again when it won't work". You are going to go through all that effort and time when at the end of the day, you know it will need to be changed. Just do it right the first time.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #114
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Why not do some research on what works and do it right the first time? What you are saying makes no sense. In summary you are saying "I know it won't work but I'll try it anyway and then change it again when it won't work". You are going to go through all that effort and time when at the end of the day, you know it will need to be changed. Just do it right the first time.
Have you read all the Very good advise he has gotten but refuses to listen to in this thread? He doesn't want to do it right, he wants to do it his own way. Granted his own way is retarded and will never work right, it is his!
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But luckily everything is only tacked so it won't be that hard to move it. Just a lot more cutting....


If those are just tacked together I can't wait to see what your actual welds look like.
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If those are just tacked together I can't wait to see what your actual welds look like.
Look closer at the welds, they are in fact only tacked. Tack-tack-tack-tack does not = a weld.
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Old June 19th, 2012, 07:49 PM   #117
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move them now.like everyone said it wont work right like that.you can spring it so it will be more stable with the coilovers but it wont be right.they are telling you this for a reason.
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leave it. its a breath of fresh air seeing someone thinking outside the box. i think this will solve your fender cutting issues.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:47 PM   #119
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Have you read all the Very good advise he has gotten but refuses to listen to in this thread? He doesn't want to do it right, he wants to do it his own way. Granted his own way is retarded and will never work right, it is his!
Who's to say what's right an what's wrong? It's more like what works and what does not.
Today I put the new springs on and took the air shocks off and it works just like I was hopping it would.
All of my measurements were correct for ride Hight and it suspends the truck and does not flop side to side like it did with the air shocks.
Just because it's not to your standards does not mean you have to be an asshole about it. In fact I never said that I was not going to change it and I never NOT took anyone's advice. I simply wanted to bolt the coilovers on the way I had it to see what it would do as a starting point. Then if I did not like it I had a point to reference ware to start.
I do not want your truck or any one else on this forums truck for that matter. I want mine. And I want to make it unique and fitting to me. I do like the advice and I never said any one was wrong other than that I myself may be wrong with my angles but I took a gamble and I got lucky.
And ass for my welds. I'm a tile guy not a "pipe welder" like yourself. I am not a good welder and I'll be the first to tell you that. Fact is I'm doing it myself and not having someone else build my truck. Maybe insted of sarcastic comments you could give a few tips seems how you are a welder am I'm not..
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LOL, you have done nothing but shrug off every bit of advise that anybody has gave you. The people that have chimed in on your build have been there and have tried a lot of different things and have a true understanding of what works and what doesn't and why. There was nothing wrong with air shocks, it was how you had them mounted. The coilovers are just as wrong, the springs just help mask the original issue. Could I help you with welding? Yes! Will I? Based on how you take advice, no.
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